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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:49 AM
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Bush: It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong >>>
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 12:08 PM by Stephanie
Oh. Okay.







Bush Steadfast on Iraq Despite Faulty Intel
AP - 6 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush accepted responsibility on Wednesday for the decision to go to war with Iraq despite faulty intelligence but said the decision to oust Saddam Hussein was still correct.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq," the president told The Woodrow Wilson Center on the eve of elections to establish Iraq's first permanent, democratically elected government. "And I'm also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we're doing just that."

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"We are in Iraq today because our goal has always been more than the removal of brutal dictator," Bush said. "It is to leave a free and democratic Iraq in his place.

"My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision. Saddam was a threat and the American people and the world is better off because he is no longer in power," the president said.


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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:52 AM
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1. Because You Fixed "THE" Inteligence: DSM
And you won't get away with it.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:46 PM
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20. He should add: "But we keep using it to justify our invasion anyway." n/
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:52 AM
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2. steadfast?
Cripes, stubborn and infantile is more correct.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658010
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:53 AM
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3. Here is another headline - Bush Accepts Responsibility For Iraq War
Bush Accepts Responsibility For Iraq War
President Admits Pre-War Intelligence Was Faulty

POSTED: 7:14 am PST December 14, 2005
UPDATED: 8:43 am PST December 14, 2005


WASHINGTON -- President George W. Bush is accepting responsibility for the decision to go to war against Iraq based on faulty intelligence.

"I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq," Bush said, even though much of the intelligence "turned out to be wrong."

more...
http://www.kcra.com/news/5533465/detail.html


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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:36 PM
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24. Well it's the
If I knew now what I knew then I'd still be able to sell this crap to you defense.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:54 AM
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4. 'turned out to be' 'always known to be'-- 6 of one, half a dozen of...
</sarcasm>
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:55 AM
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5. Well, let's check that Congressional Authorization
Anyone see anything in there about "a free and democratic Iraq?"

Anyone? Bueller?

The scary thing is, I can't tell if he believes it himself, and I can't decide which scares me more.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:55 AM
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6. Scratch wrong, replace with fixed,
and bush has made a true statement. See, he's so close to a truthful statement I guess he gets a pass from the "press".
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Cleetus Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:56 AM
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7. The part I don't get...
The part I don't get? Last week * said that knowing then what he knows now, he would do it all over again. Now he comes out and admits (duh) that the intel was bad. (Forget that he knew this all along)

First he says he would do it all over again, then he says his decisions were based on faulty intel.

Would someone be as kind as to translate this inconsistancy into logic that makes sense?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:59 AM
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10. Welcome to DU
Remember that Republicans don't do logic. It's a faith-based organization. We, the reality-based, just don't understand.
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Cleetus Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:19 PM
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16. Thanks for the welcome
Thanks for the welcome, Stephanie.

W fighting back. He did MSNBC and FOX yesterday. He ain't gonna take it any more.

What a putz.

His new stratagy seems to be very un-Rovian. Karl would never send * out to face the wolves. I wonder if Rove has handed Bushs remote control to someone else? Bush is acting very un-Bush-like, which means his strategy is very un-Rove-like.

I'm hoping that this means that they know something that we don't know, like Fitz is gonna nail Rove good.

I know it's a reach, but Bush's strategy is much more agressive than it has been for months.

Maybe it's nothing but booze-induced false-bravado? Feh, I can hope..

CThanks again for the welcome.

Cheers
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:29 PM
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17. Most of the bad intelligence is between Bush's ears. In years
to come, this war will be discussed with a lot more candor than we hear today and I believe that history will lay the blame squarely on Bush. He should go down as the worst president ever.

Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:07 PM
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25. Hi Cleetus!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:57 AM
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8. "It is to leave a free and democratic Iraq in his place...
...and the world is better off because he is no longer in power,":rofl: Yeah tell that to the Iraqis,asshole!The world would be a better place if you were never born Georgie boy!
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:59 AM
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9. "and the American people and the world "is" better off?
It should be "are."
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:34 PM
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23. I think he means
better offed. He's doing his best to off as many as possible.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:05 PM
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11. "...despite faulty intelligence..."?
"WASHINGTON - President Bush accepted responsibility on Wednesday for the decision to go to war with Iraq despite faulty intelligence but said the decision to oust Saddam Hussein was still correct."

Ah, no. There was PLENTY of totally correct intelligence, and just a little bit of faulty intelligence. Bush and his administration took us to war BASED on that little bit of faulty intelligence, despite the overwhelming amount of ACCURATE intelligence.

I hate misleading so-called news reporting.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:06 PM
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12. "We were lacking in intelligence"
True.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:08 PM
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13. Why does he get to say it was the right decision?
Why does he get to evaluate himself? How many working people get to evaluate their own work?
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:08 PM
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14. This is what really ticks me off about the Dem party...
Anyone with a half a brain who has been around for a while KNEW that all the bullshit coming from the Bushies prior to the Iraq war was just that: BULLSHIT!!

The intelligence that was wrong was the crap that they used; the correct intelligence was push aside, buried or ignored.

My God, how can any intelligent thinking person not be skeptical when the Bushies claim Iraq is going to fly planes over America and spread anthrax and then we're shown the balsa wood drone planes that were made of cheaper garbage than the toy planes that used to be sold in A&P grocery stores. You know, the ones that break the first time you toss them or crank the rubber band to power the propeller.

Here's something to ponder: does anyone out there think that all the big weapons manufactures don't have a idea of the armaments possessed by other countries? I bet these companies have better knowledge of what other countries possess so they can scare the bejesus out of the US - "HEY, they have this and that, so you need this, this and that. Let me show you our new line of bunker busting nuclear tip missles. They even come in red, white and blue. And for an extra fifty grand we can paint silver stars on the tip."
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:10 PM
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15. When people ask him how Saddam was a threat Bush* says
He was going to give WMDs to terrorists. Talk about complete disconnect. The MSM never asked him about this contradiction... How was Saddam an immediate threat to the USA? How was he a threat??? Is it treason to ask that question?:patriot:
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:38 PM
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19. Exactly!
Why doesn't anyone call him on this?

He admits that the intelligence was wrong, yet says that Saddam was a threat, so his decision was justified.

But this is illogical: if the intelligence was wrong (which he admits), then Saddam was no threat. Therefore, the decision to go to war was wrong.

Even if he wasn't lying out his ass (which we all know he is), his statements today do not make sense. Why oh why do we not have a media or Democrats who are willing to point this out???

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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:30 PM
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18. That speech made me ill
and angry...so much BS!!! Just how stupid does he think the American people are? aaarrrggghhh...that man is absolutely despicable! He has no shame
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:01 PM
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21. So the Office of Special Plans was wrong?
Damn!
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:32 PM
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22. How dare they put him in front of a banner that says "scholars"
He is the least scholastic of all of us.
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