SIBEL EDMONDS Case May Reveal Plame's Crucial CIA Role

[kpete]

---According to Deliso's two sources, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet and former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, the outing of Valerie Plame may have severely damaged a CIA operation to monitor a nuclear black market faciliated by the shadowy but well-connected Washington lobby group, the American Turkish Council (ATC). ---
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/firedoglake/113474808026547263/

Ex-FBI translator's case may reveal Plame's crucial CIA role
By Mike Mejia
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Dec 16, 2005, 00:52


For over a year, speculation has run rampant in the U.S. media and in the blogosphere about the CIA leak investigation being conducted by Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

The thought-provoking questions asked by journalists and bloggers alike are many and varied: Who, in addition to Scooter Libby and Karl Rove, was involved in leaking the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame to the media in order to punish her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, for his refutation of President Bush's Niger uranium claim? What was the role of the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) in peddling Plame's name to the media? Who forged the Niger uranium documents? What secrets lay inside the eight redacted pages of material in Circuit Judge David Tatel's decision to overide his finding of a reporters' federal shield privilege "ere the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security"? Was Plame's role at the CIA as a weapons of mass destruction expert critical, as old CIA hands like Larry Johnson contend, or was she just a paper pusher, as the pro-Bush crowd proclaims?

Although many of these questions about the Fitzgerald investigation have yet to be answered, a pair of little noticed but explosive articles authored by Christopher Deliso of antiwar.com, "Plame, Pakistan a Nuclear Turkey and the Necons" and "Lesser Neocons of L'Affaire Plame", go a long way to solving the mystery of Valerie Plame's mission at the agency and may henceforth reveal what likely lies in those mysterious eight redacted pages of Tatel's.

According to Deliso's two sources, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet and former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, the outing of Valerie Plame may have severely damaged a CIA operation to monitor a nuclear black market faciliated by the shadowy but well-connected Washington lobby group, the American Turkish Council (ATC). (Those familiar with the Sibel Edmonds case will know the ATC is the very same organization that the former FBI translator heard on wiretaps in connection with various alleged illegal activities, some connected to 9/11.) From Edmonds, Deliso obtained the following admission: "Plame's undercover job involved the organizations , the ATC (American-Turkish Council) and the ATA (American-Turkish Association) . . . the Brewster Jennings network was very active in Turkey and with the Turkish community in the U.S. during the late 1990s, 2000, and 2001 . . . in places like Chicago, Boston, and Paterson, N.J."

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_340.shtml

[stop the bleeding]

1. K&R - thank you for putting this here

Give Mommy a Kiss....

[H2O Man]

2. Nominated.

This is one of the threads that DUers would do well to read closely. It goes a long way in explaining what happened -- and why.

[rumpel]

3. I posted it on Editorials. It is important also to read the linked article

of Christopher Deliso!

here it is:

http://antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=8091

[savemefromdumbya]

6. It all becomes clear!

[leveymg]

4. ATC and ATA do a lot of business with another shadowy "lobbying group"

Would anyone like to guess who? Here's a hint:

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov05/Stanton1118.htm

It should be an eye-opener when former US general and presidential advisor -- now the spokesman for US businesses and the Turkish government -- asks the “people’s house” to remain silent on a matter, thoroughly documented in American and British newspapers of the day, that involved the systematic slaughter of 1.2 million Armenians. If the issue is that important-after all, we’re not talking about a puny drug war -- then it is likely that Scowcroft told his Turkish Council members to fill the campaign coffers of the Speaker, former majority leader Tom DeLay, and current majority leader Roy Blount. And Scowcroft may have suggested to the Turkish government that it contract with former US congressmen Stephen Solarz and Robert Livingston (members of the ATC) to lobby on behalf of the Turkish government in the US House and Senate. The Turkish newspaper Sabah reported that Hastert was pressured by AIPAC to defeat another House resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide back in the year 2000. Trade associations in Washington, DC frequently unite on issues and, so it seems, Scowcroft’s ATC and AIPAC worked together to get rid of the Armenian matter.


Intrepid reporter Jason Vest writing in The Nation in 2002, noted that Richard Perle and Douglas Feith worked as foreign registered lobbyists for Turkey back in the late 1980’s and into the 1990’s. They “quietly and deftly kept the arms sluice to Turkey open” said Vest. Feith had hired former executive director of AIPAC, Morris Amitay, to assist in the task. The new Feith and Perle, Solarz and Livingston, have picked up where the largely disgraced Perle and Feith left off. One thing is for certain though; during Feith’s reign over The Policy Organization, the ATC and AIPAC had their operative well-placed and, perhaps, under control.


Black Market Bingo

The ATC and the Turkish Consulate in Chicago had been under the watchful eye of the FBI since the late 1990’s and one suspects it still is. But that’s about it since FBI field agents were told/are told to follow but not arrest suspected Turkish operatives. The ATC was/is also being monitored by the CIA. For example, Valerie Plame had attended a number of functions at the ATC and took several trips to Turkey. The newspaper Hurriyet confirmed that she was hunting for WMD’s, more likely their components, in a country well-known for its expertise in pushing products through the black market. This brings us to some excerpts from the PBS program Frontline:

[Nothing Without Hope]

23. Strange bedfellows! Note how AIPAC connections keep turning up

in the Bush Administration's foreign pollicy. Feith was an agent of BOTH ATC and AIPAC.

[savemefromdumbya]

5. Judge Walton gagged her and judge on Libby's case

A good case could now be made that outing Plame was an intentional act pepetrated to protect real criminal activity. Casting the investigation in such a light may show that a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act could still be in play.

When is a state secret considered criminal. How much classified material is deemed to be criminal.

Libby's arraingment judge was Judge Walton and Judge Walton dismissed Sybel's case after then-Attorney General John Ashcroft invoked the rarely used "state secrets privilege." He warned that further disclosure of the duties of Edmonds and other translators could cause "serious damage to the national security interests of the United States."

[wiggs]

7. Interesting. Any Sibel post is a good one.

I suggest that anyone who needs more Sibel info visit the Sibel group on DU...and check out the Indira Singh stuff while there.

[Al-CIAda]

8. Interview with Indira Singh. "Ground Zero 911, Blueprint for Terror

Listen Now..
Interview with Indira Singh. "Ground Zero 911, Blueprint for Terror

http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php?si=90

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9. kick.

[Al-CIAda]

10. .

[EVDebs]

11. The R's have * for brains

Lemme git this straight. With the preoccupation with Bill Clinton's whang for sumthin' like four years at least and now this preoccupation with I-raq, now we're a seein' NUCLEAR BLACK MARKET information being ignored so R's can continue playing with themselves (ya see, they're in CONTROL).

Trouble is we-ALL pay the price for their screwups.

[leveymg]

21. That's right - read Joe Trento's "Prelude to Terror"

Looking the other way while Dr. Khan put together the "Islamic Bomb" was the cost of the Pakistanis and Saudis helping us against the Russians in Afghanistan. The N. Koreans and Iran benefited from that one, too.

There's a parallel network involving the Turks, the Israelis, and South Africa.

Lots of organized crime involvement in this, and bribery of elected officials in several countries. There's a terrorism funding side to all this, too.

9/11 happened because the Bushies simultaenously loosened the controls and surveillance, and tried to cover up these networks because they connected with GOP politicians and friends at many nodes. This is treason of the most damaging sort. The amazing thing is that it is being shut down, piece by piece -- the Republic may survive.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. I don't think

it was to "punish" Wilson. I think that's a cop-out for what they were doing. Outing Brewster Jennings so they could use the excuse they gave in 2003 with Hussein and Niger. Bush was warned to not use that but he did it anyways.

[cascadiance]

13. Beat me to this one this morning!...

This is a great article. We need a MSM organization like Knight Ridder to pick it up and have it echoed through their Real Cities Network or something to that effect!

Coincidentally, right now I'm trying to gather all of the videos and video clips of stuff pertaining to Sibel Edmonds to give to my potential future congress person (hoping she gets elected in a month or so) to raise hell with congress if and when she gets in. I've got the Lost in Translation video, the CSPAN video for the ACLU supreme court preview, all of the various Democracy Now stories and interviews, Daniel Ellsberg's "lunch" with her, Indira Singh's reading of her letter, and her earlier speech to the ACLU. Getting a bunch of audio interviews too, various talk show hosts and stations, including Scott Horton's very good interviews with her well.

I'd really like to get my hands on at least an audio stream of Deliso's interview with her, as that was such a good one earlier. Anyone have a link to where I can find this? And if you have any suggestions for any other media segments I should get on here, please forward to me. If you PM me, once I can build a good master and means to duplicate this, I might send some DVDs privately. Since some of this is copyrighted stuff (like the CBS video of Lost in Translation earlier which I bought from them), I don't want to put it out as something to distribute heavily at this time. I do think though, if we can refine this and it's presentation, and perhaps even build out some good ways to link in PDF documents, etc. for all the wealth of other news articles out there, and get all of the copyright distribution clearances done as well as Sibel's blessing, this would be a good way to get the word out. Had I been able to get it done earlier, it might have been a good "Fitzmas gift" for some out there. Well, maybe we can declare "Fitzmas" a bit later than Xmas and still have an occasion to do so. Since Cafepress.com does have the way of selling CD's (and perhaps DVDs too, haven't checked), I might try to offer that as a way later to distribute it.

Just got my first printed t-shirt of the following. I'm going to clean up the image a bit so that the black areas of the photo are "bordered" a bit better with the black t-shirt background. But the photo itself where it is printed looks pretty good, I'll post a note when the updated shirt is ready.



http://www.cafepress.com/sibel.40085256

Recommended!

[Al-CIAda]

14. Check here for an extensive Sibel Edmonds article, interview & audio list

http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds.htm

[symbolman]

26. You can go to

http://www.takebackthemedia.com and check out my film, a 2 DVD set called "Rove's War" which I researched for over a year.. a definitive Chronology of the Plame outing,

also go to

YOU can actually DECORATE YOUR OWN FITZMAS TREE, by dragging and dropping Ornaments and dropping them on the FITZMAS TREE - if an Ornament sticks to your "hand" it may be because of the slimy people encased within, just give it another mouse click on the tree to shake it off. The first flash can be found here:

http://www.tbtmradio.com/flash/merryfitzmas.swf

There are two Flashes that interact with each other - one is the Fitzmas Tree itself, with a box FULL of decorations, the decorations being the Subjects of Indictments, Investigations, etc - something your Right Wing brother-in-law might also be interested in knowing, lots of facts

If you click (click all over the page, lots of surprises on it) on the TITLE's of the Flashes you can go between the Tree itself, and another Flash that will load up with all the Decorations and an explanation of WHO they are, and WHAT they did.. for folks that don't know much about the Plame Outing they can get educated on the Ornaments and then click on back to the Tree and Decorate the Hell out of it

The first link goes to the Fitzmas Tree itself, but like I said, you can click to the other Flash for more info, or a pal can get more info and Trim the Tree after.

You can check out the Ornaments information at this link secondly (but maybe miss some surprises where the Presents are in the first link) HERE:

http://www.tbtmradio.com/flash/merryfitzmasornaments.swf

[randyconspiracybuff]

27. Make Sure You Use Fintan Dunne's Interview

The Break for News interview with Sibel in June '04 has some good soundbites. Yes, Fintan Dunne is a hopeless conspiracy theorist and he now criticizes Sibel as a CIA dupe, but this particular interview was one of the first where she described the role of "semi-legit" organizations.

But here's the problem: because of the Justice Department gag order, everyone in Congress is afraid to speak out on Sibel's case. They are doubly afraid because Hastert is implicated, and he has a lot of power to make a Congressperson's life miserable. In other words, we have big hurdles to overcome. We need a groundswell.

Michael Moore, where are you?

[cascadiance]

29. This is why I'm trying to focus on my potential congress person...

Our Democratic candidate for Cunningham's seat wasn't in congress when the 9/11 testimonies were being read to them (and they were subsequently "gagged"). She hasn't heard directly any of this, so at this time she's not (I believe) subject to the gag order (much like David Rose wasn't when corroborating Edmonds' findings on Hastert through other sources than her). And she has the unique opportunity of getting into office within a month or so if she can win this special election here in San Diego. I'm hoping to impress upon her this opportunity for leadership that she can use that others might not.

I've not put together a lot of the audio links yet, but I do plan on using the stuff from Breakfornews. Also, the link that was posted this morning in another thread on a fresh Deliso interview with Scott Horton on the 17th. I'm hoping to have this stuff ready for a fund-raiser of hers I hope to attend in January.

[randyconspiracybuff]

31. I Tried to Private Message

but the system won't let me do so. How many posts do I need to have?

By the way, a guy I volunteered in his election of the Secretary of the California Democratic Party is now, I believe, the Chief of Staff for Rep. Diane Watson. I am thinking of emailing him and see what his take on the situation is (although I haven't been in touch with him for about 3 years and he might be a little busy these days). I think Watson was one of the co-sponsors of one of National Security Whistleblower bills.

[StateSecrets]

15. Judge Reggie Walton

Judge Reggie Walton has been 'randomly' assigned to Libby/Plame case.

Judge Reggie Walton happens to be the same judge who happened to get Edmonds v. DOJ Case 'Randomly'; grant two gag orders requested by Gov on Edmonds' case, and prevented Edmonds from testifying/providing deposition to 9/11 Family members attorneys.

Now he is assigned to another court case filed by Edmonds under FTCA; of course randomly!

'Random'??!! I don't think so.

Time to bring attention to 'Judge Reggie Walton'

[cascadiance]

16. Reggie Walton kind of fits a pattern...

That says if we want to have someone sitting on top of stuff we don't want scrutinized, let's get a minority in charge or to do the job for us (like an afro-American or hispanic person) (i.e. Kenneth Blackwell, Armstrong Williams, Condoleeza Rice, Alberto Gonzalez, Janice Brown, etc.), that they think will look more "acceptable" to the masses and not look "suspicious".

Reggie Walton is a very convenient "owned" judge for them to put in under the radar!

And welcome to DU. Thanks for your good perceptions!

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17. BTW - Welcome to DU!

Give Mommy a Kiss....

[newyawker99]

18. Hi StateSecrets!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[StateSecrets]

19. Judge Reggie Walton

You can get financial records of federal judges on the Judicial Watch Web site as you might know.

Go to: http://www.thememoryblog.org/archives/000343.html

Interestingly, Walton's filing from 2003 is completely redacted! Be interesting to know what lies under the ink.

[cascadiance]

24. Interesting how Walton got "randomly assigned to TWO of Sibel's cases!

According to this just released article now, she still has a case pending that hasn't been ruled on yet. The one that the Supreme Court refused to hear was her appeal to her first case that Walton ruled against her on. However, it looks like from this article Walton was "RANDOMLY" assigned to BOTH of her cases, the original one and the one that is still pending. Now when you add to his also being "RANDOMLY" being assigned to Libby's case, AND his lack of disclosure. Something REALLY smells! I wonder if we should forward this to the Knight Ridder Bureau folks for them to work on while they still can, that hopefully will get a little more national airplay in their Real Cities network.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2005/12/17/181422/49

Judge in Scooter Libby, Sibel Edmonds cases is redacted in action

By Bill Conroy,
Posted on Sat Dec 17th, 2005 at 06:14:22 PM EST

What do two of the biggest national-security news stories of the century — the Valerie Plame leak scandal and the legal case of FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds — have in common?

They both are being presided over by the same federal judge in the District of Colombia, Reggie Walton, a Bush appointee to the federal court and a man who appears to have a few well-kept secrets of his own.

...

An appeal in the Edmonds case was recently rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court. She now has a separate case pending in federal court in Washington, D.C. Ironically, in both cases, Judge Walton was randomly assigned to hear her complaints at the District Court level. Walton also has randomly been assigned to hear the Plamegate case involving Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff.

So given the high-stakes poker being played in both these cases, one civil and one criminal, why has no one in the establishment press bothered to ask what is contained in Judge Walton’s financial disclosure statement? After all, his investments and financial backers would be of keen interest in gauging his ability to hear these cases in an unbiased manner, right?

[Me.]

20. Doesn't Hastert Have Deep Turkish Connections?

Taken Turkish money?

[TheGunslinger]

25. Why yes. Yes he does.

[Nothing Without Hope]

22. I've never believed the panicked calling of multiple reporters about Plame

was ONLY to strike out against Joseph Wilson. After all, he had already done his damage.

My #1 guess has been that the Bushies were afraid that the CIA operation might pick up evidence of how they planned to plant WMDs in Iraq. Judy Miller was "embedded" on site ready to "report" and was under an unusual secrecy/security agreement. One of David Kelly's last emails before his "suicide" was to Judy Miller. My best guess is that the Bushies were trying to conceal their WMD-planting operation from the CIA at Brewster-Jennings, and the fact that it would hit at Joseph Wilson's wife was a bonus.

Read more in Peace Patriot's description of this idea here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5049555

Now we see in this thread another very interestng possibility.

[Catherine Vincent]

28. Kick!

[Al-CIAda]

30. .

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32. another kick