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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:07 AM
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The intelligence committee knew about his spying? Tell
Bob Graham that; he was in charge of the committee in '02 and claims he was never told about any surveillance.
Ask that, journalists. Do your job!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:11 AM
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1. Bush etal would likely have him arrested if he said anything
He'd put him up on charges for discussing things that they were told in Classified Sessions. And the public can't learn if it's true or not because...we're at WAR! 9/11! Enemies among us! 9/11! Boo!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:15 AM
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2. Too late!
Bob Graham, chair of Intel committee in '02, wasn't informed:


From Knight-Ridder:


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Former Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., who chaired the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2002, said he wasn't informed of the domestic surveillance program. In an interview, Graham recalled a 2002 meeting in Vice President Dick Cheney's office about a far more narrow plan by the National Security Agency to intercept communications from outside the United States to other foreign destinations that rely on U.S. satellite links.

"What the administration did was not justified," Graham said. "You don't fight terrorism by taking away the constitutional liberties of U.S. citizens. ... I never saw a situation of extreme urgency that would warrant this."




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Government officials told the newspaper that government eavesdroppers sought court-approved warrants only for conversations within the United States, not for overseas calls. The paper reported that "hundreds, perhaps thousands of people inside the United States" have been targeted for monitoring over the past three years.

"The president has, in effect, created an off-the-books surveillance procedure without any legislative authority," said Marc Rotenberg, a law professor at Georgetown University and executive director of the Electronic Security Information Center, a civil liberties group. "The president has claimed an extraordinary power, the right to conduct surveillance without judicial review. He is in a place where no president has been before."


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http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/13426057.htm
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:35 AM
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3. He also said that they have told Congress 12 times but
admits to have renewed the actions 30 times. Fuzzy math or what?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:41 AM
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4. also, the congressmen were sworn to secrecy.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:42 AM
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5. Hi, Sydnie!
Happy CHRISTMAS to ya! :hi:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 12:12 PM
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7. And to you too sweetie!
Here's hoping that we have a Happy Christmas and a Merry Fitzmas season, one and all! :hug:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:45 AM
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6. 12=30....come on...get with the Bush mathematics, would ya?
That's why he implemented NCLB. He wants to teach all children that 12=30. Keep 'em all stoooopid, like him.
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