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Mon Dec-19-05 11:37 AM
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Look, people, what we saw and heard will bump * up in the polls. |
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Whether we like it or not, Bush gave a very strong physical performance.
He gave his supporters a reason to get back on his bandwagon.
I THINK HE IS THE WORST PRESIDENT == EVER === BUT
He and his team are clever marketeers who know how to deliver a message.
Now, I forgot???? Who do we have on OUR team?? Who?
Bush today recaptured the bully pulpit and I am sick to death about it.
Where is Fitzgerald??? Where is Delay???
We are never, never, never, never, never, never, going to win one rally point.
Does anyone disagree????
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:39 AM
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:39 AM
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"Recaptured the bully pulpit"?
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Sorry, sorry. Laughing too hard.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:39 AM
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3. If the media didn't show Bush then no one would know |
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since this is packaged and orchestrated by the media no wonder the sheep say baaa
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:40 AM
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He didn't recapture anything, sounded like an idiot & is destined for impeachment.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:46 AM
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I too, think he did not accomplish much other than gice his die hard supporters something of a reassurance. I think most folks are starting to wake up and see how corrupt he and the repugs all are. As long as Dem leaders keep pushing for investigations, keep Frist, DeLay, Rove, Libby, et al in the limelight,* will not get much out of any of this.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:53 AM
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31. If anyone took the time to watch his performance today... |
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They should be worried at how belligerent he seemed...
How he kept trying to talk over the press to the American People by repeating that it was his job to protect America and to protect Civil Liberties...
And yet, he never once said what he was doing to safeguard our liberties...
He will get his base, they wouldn't leave it even if they could... But he is pushing the independents away and taking democrats completely of the table, even those who want to support the president just because he is the president...
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:40 AM
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He has proven time and again he is not to be trusted, and even the dimmest bulbs get it after a while. Only the hardest core of his supporters are with him now.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:40 AM
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6. I Suggest You Immediately Get Hysterical And Put Yourself Out Of |
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:42 AM
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:44 AM
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16. Let's make a bet and revist what I said....Bush is going to go up |
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in the polls.
I have been living with Republican misery along time.
Let's see now
Bush knocked off Anne Richards Bush knocked off John McCain Bush knocked off Max Cleland Bush knocked off the 2000 election Bush knocked off the 2004 election
and we have done WHAT?????????? and we have won WHAT??????????
I dare any of you to respond with something intelligent.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:45 AM
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19. I'd respond with something deeply insightful |
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but I'm still laughing too hard.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:47 AM
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Who's this mythicl "we"?
If your so enamored of Bush, I suggest you immediately offer him your services. Maybe you could stand in for Mr. Gannon?
Respond to what intelligently? You're hysterical drivel about Chimpy going up in the polls becuase he's so masterfully competent? If you want intelligent discourse, may I suggest YOU start?
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:41 AM
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7. bwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaa bullshit! |
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:42 AM
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8. he will get a one day bounce |
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Iraq will never improve. Heating bills are going crazy this winter. Your nuts to think Bush can ever regain momentum.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:44 AM
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15. Heating bills will get him |
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and many folks here have been saying they will be getting theirs this week.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:54 AM
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34. and that is exactly how it needs to be framed |
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:43 AM
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because he's gone too far. People still remember Katrina, and I don't think many think he will really "protect" them.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:43 AM
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12. People feel charitable... All * wants is one more free pass... |
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The guy has done nothing but get free passes all his life. Why start being held accountable now?
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:43 AM
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13. I do, disagree that is. |
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:rofl: He came off as a bullying arrogant delusional and paranoid little Dictatortot!
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:44 AM
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14. Just Like Nixon Recaptured The Moral Highground With "I AM NOT A CROOK!" |
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That was the last throes of the Bushco Insurgency that you were watching...
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:45 AM
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17. i dont think so. he was arrogant, misdirective and rambling. |
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I think it is just going to further polarize plus he is going to lose some percentage of republicans on libertarian principals.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:45 AM
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18. a bump, maybe. The press peed themselves over 3 points |
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that took him to barely 40% approval. I don't think he can get above 50% no matter what he does, as long as troops are in Iraq.
So, Bush blamed everyone except himself for terrorism. "If only they had given me the keys . . ." Bullshit. All branches of government controlled by republican majorities, and Bush can't get what he wants?
I think most folks will resent getting hollered at today by the moran. How many people do you know who think he has enough knowledge to wipe his ass properly?
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:47 AM
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enough with the pity party:eyes:
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:48 AM
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23. Not if you are listening to the callers to C-Span |
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even his supporters are turning on him.
One caller said Forrest Gumpishly "You never know what you are going to get when you vote for President". He was asked if he voted for blivet** and he said, regretfully he had because Kerry was "just a bit too two faced for him". Guess the joke was on him. Kerry was only two faced because this two faced President TOLD him Kerry was two faced.
They are waking up and they aren't liking what they are finding.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:50 AM
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27. I hope all of you who posted are right, I would be happy to be |
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:54 AM
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37. Is that kinda like "gettin' drunk one night and going to bed with a "10" |
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...and waking up with a '3' in the morning? :rofl:
(just trying to put it in a way that knuckle-dragging murikans can understand, a la the shrub)
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:49 AM
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24. I have to disagree. Even though I only saw the first ten minutes or so |
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(I had to turn it off in disgust) I think Bush gave a horrible performance. He is an awful speaker, and he sounds like he doesn't have a clue what he is saying.
All this talk of Bush "getting better at speaking" that I have heard from everywhere over the past few years is just all over-hyped bullshit.
Besides, that's the kind of praise that would be appropriate for a ten year old. Not the President of the United States.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:49 AM
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The long-term trend for Bush downward, in absence of another Terrah 'Tack.
If Bush recaptures the Bully Pulpit, it's a good bet that he had to pay the Bully some stiff rental fees.
You've got to expect periodic fluctuations in the political atmosphere. It's a chaotic system. But Bush is headed for disgrace, ignominy, and oblivion.
--p!
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:49 AM
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26. Ninga, you have a good point. |
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I didn't watch either performance, because I can't stand to watch him. But the Bush team are great marketers. They are the lousiest bunch to occupy the White House in my old lifetime, but they know how to sell even horseshit.
It will take someone with courage in the Senate to call this NSA spying for what it is, and to call Bush on it. And I'm wondering who will do it. The message must be clear--getting a warrant would not have slowed him down one bit. It's how these people think--everyone who stands in their way be damned. Amazing thinking by the leadership of a democracy.
Good or not, the speech and PC will fade away in a few days time. What will matter, as it always has, is what happens in Iraq on the ground. Bush can no longer manipulate the news, that's something he can no longer control. Too many in the public don't trust him enough for that.
And let's see what Fitz does.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:50 AM
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28. WTF are you talking about?? I don't agree with any of what you posted.n/t |
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:54 AM
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35. No Kidding. It Sounds Like Somebody Has Been Hitting The Booze. |
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This was one of the worst performances of his fucking life.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:51 AM
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29. I watched him recite the talking points. |
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To me, he looked desparate. He looked as though someone told him he either convinces everybody what a grand guy he is or he gets no dessert tonight.
IF WE EXPRESS DOUBT OVER OUR OWN ABILITIES, THEN DAMN IT, HE HAS WON!!!
SCREW THE BULLY PULPIT....STAY ON MESSAGE.....THE MAN IS A DISASTER FOR THE COUNTRY AND EVEN FOR NEOCONS ALTHOUGH THEY ARE STILL TOO DENSE TO SEE IT YET BUT THEY ARE GETTING THERE.
REMEMBER, THE OTHER SIDE AGREES WITH ANYTHING HE SAYS WHENEVER HE SAYS IT. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE POUNDING OUT THE MESSAGE THAT WHAT HE SAYS, WHENEVER HE SAYS IT IS BULL. ITS THE SAME OLD SAME OLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IF WE TAKE ON A DEFEATIST ATTITUDE, THEN WE DEFEAT OURSELVES. WE DO THEIR JOB FOR THEM.
KNOCK IT OFF.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:52 AM
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30. hmmm, we must've been watching 2 different new conferences |
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:53 AM
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32. The knuckster may solidify his 29% base |
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the ones that believe that Iraq did 911 and that poor dubby wasn't allowed to stop it. He didn't have the powers and now the sheep will hope for his powers to magnify to protect us. The heck with that, he had his chance and all the sh*t has gone down on his watch. The country is in serious debt and he wants more tax cuts, the war sucks and to him it is a shining example of democracy. He needs help! :argh:
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:53 AM
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33. a weak pitcher and the lineup he's facing is formidable - his own actions |
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He's got some pretty stiff sluggers that can do him damage, and they're all of his own doing - economy - the Abu Ghraib pictures still not released - the Plame leak - Iraq - crumbling US intelligence due to PNAC meddling and post-Cheney attrition - crumbling US relations around the world due to the Condi-for-Powell trade
I am willing to bet one of them will tag him pretty hard in the next couple of weeks.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:54 AM
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36. No it won't give him a bump! |
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Because people have stopped believing him. There is nothing he can say anymore--the facts are out there screaming much louder. Don't worry--he's toast. He's got all the people he's ever going to get.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:54 AM
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Nobody is left on the fence. Chimpy supporters will continue to support him. People like you and I will only dispise him more. The writing is on the wall. Stick a fork in the chimps ass, he's done.
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Mon Dec-19-05 11:55 AM
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39. Ha. Ho ho. Hee hee hee hee. HA HA HA HA HA HA.... |
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:rofl:
That's so funny!
Please. All he did was regurgitate crap he's given us thousands of times over. People aren't listening anymore.
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The Republican Culture of Corruption will collapse from the weight of festering of their own evilness regardless of how ineffective the Dems are as an opposition party. There are too many things that are out of balance with the laws of Nature and Nature always corrects extreme balance differentials.
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Mon Dec-19-05 12:14 PM
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42. Cue the Vonage jingle. |
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Woo hoo .......woo woo hoo
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Mon Dec-19-05 01:13 PM
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This is DU. You're not supposed to say things like this!
This man and his cabal could NEVER surprise us and pull ahead. They can NEVER snatch our victory from the jaws of defeat!
And even if it might look that way, we'll bite your butt off for just suggesting it.
Don't say you weren't warned!
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Mon Dec-19-05 01:25 PM
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44. Vowing to violate the Constitution and break the law is supposed to... |
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...help him? (stupid goddamn subject line space!)
I certaintly hope Americans are smarter than that.
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Mon Dec-19-05 01:31 PM
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45. I disagree! How many bumps did he get |
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last time? a 2% bump in the most conservative Audience was the best they could find!
2 %!! out of ALL of those speeches and public out reach, that's not a bump that's not even a pebble.
Fact he sounded like an arrogant prick that he is today.
His clever marketeers have been failing miserably for the last 2 years.
The American public is no longer buying it. 37% approval rating... it takes a lot of exposed bullshit or Bushit to get there.
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Mon Dec-19-05 01:32 PM
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46. Sorry, but your post is complete unadulterated crap. |
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Mon Dec-19-05 04:49 PM
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47. New Poll Numbers...* not doing so well :) |
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Mon Dec-19-05 04:51 PM
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His performance was lame and his acts were blatantly unconstitutional. Americans don't like being secretly spied on, no matter who they are. Nothing he said changed that.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:10 PM
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49. Ninga down in latest poll. |
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3% and sinking. Chicken Little says, "Ninga still my man!"
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:21 PM
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50. Wow... Have you not been paying attention... |
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I think your expectations are a bit too high and your patience a bit too low. What you fail to see is the fact that Bush is out trying to regain his footing means something has knocked him off-balance. Our job is simply to keep tripping him every chance we can. Let him play President for a day and then we'll Zing him again. It's "death by a thousands cuts" and his poisonous blood will stain all of those who hold him up. This neocon plan has been in motion for 25 years or more and it's going to take time and energy to root out this evil pox on our house.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:24 PM
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51. CNN disagrees with you. |
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:25 PM
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52. Chill out -- people are pissed. |
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I don't think he's going to get away with this.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:26 PM
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53. There is about 30% of Americans that will never leave * side. |
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If he was caught eating a live puppy on TV, they would still worship him.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:26 PM
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I thought Shrub was awful today. |
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He was loud, rude, disrespectful, testy and edgy. There was nothing graceful, dignified or inspiring about anything he said today. I don't think anything he said was genuine.
I also think a lot of it was very contradictory to the attitude that Shrub as tried to portray in the past. Since when does shrub give a shit about what others think of him? He sounded like he was asking the public to like him. He's never done that before. To me, that's a sign of weakness.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:26 PM
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54. I thought Shrub was awful today. |
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He was loud, rude, disrespectful, testy and edgy. There was nothing graceful, dignified or inspiring about anything he said today. I don't think anything he said was genuine.
I also think a lot of it was very contradictory to the attitude that Shrub as tried to portray in the past. Since when does shrub give a shit about what others think of him? He sounded like he was asking the public to like him. He's never done that before. To me, that's a sign of weakness.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:31 PM
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55. He may go up about 1/2 a point. |
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No one really watched. Too late Bush, you're a miserable failure.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:33 PM
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56. I wouldn't want to be on your team in a fight |
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Because you are apparently a no account pussy, and no mistake.
You'll cry all night.
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Mon Dec-19-05 05:34 PM
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57. I just think were stuck with the chimp for the duration. |
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Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 05:35 PM by DanCa
The GOP Controls the House, the Senate, and now the Supreme Court. I really dont see the gop turning on one of their own.
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