Rawstory developing:NY Times considering another splash

[cal04]

NY Times considering another splash on FBI spying on
protesters, rallies in Tuesday editions.... Developing...

http://www.rawstory.com/

My question is could bush have legally gotten an order to spy on these groups
Ijust remembered this too
Details of the aggressive surveillance operation, which involves interception of the home and office telephones and the emails of UN delegates in New York, are revealed in a document leaked to The Observer.
The memo describes orders to staff at the agency, whose work is clouded in secrecy, to step up its surveillance operations 'particularly directed at... UN Security Council Members (minus US and GBR, of course)' to provide up-to-the-minute intelligence for Bush officials on the voting intentions of UN members regarding the issue of Iraq.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,905936,00.html

[Mz Pip]

1. Wouldn't surprise me in the least

Legally, illegally, big deal. He does what he wants.

I'm sure he's just trying to protect the peace groups from any terrorists that might have infiltrated their ranks. :sarcasm: He does it because he loves our freedoms.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[SoFlaJet]

2. This is the one

that could be real big-we know or have been suspecting for a long time about this Nixonian behavior since they started the run up to this illegal war

[jean]

6. Karen Kwiatkowski says bush out-Nixoned Nixon - - - read Will Pitt's

interview with her here:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/121905Z.shtml

excerpt:

"Today," continued Kwiatkowski, "we have a President and administration that has out-Nixoned Nixon in every negative way, with none of the Nixon administration's redeeming attention to detail in domestic and foreign policy. It may indeed mean that the constitution has flat-lined and civil liberties will be only for those who can buy and own a legislator or a political party. We will all need to learn how to spell 'corporate state,' which for Mussolini was his favorable definition of fascism."

I asked Lt. Colonel Kwiatkowski what it all means in the end. "I believe this use of national technical means (NSA communications interceptions) against American citizens is illegal," replied Kwiatkowski, "and I hope the courts will reverse the President. This illegality and misuse of executive power matches that of both the White House Iraq Group and the Office of Special Plans, where the truth and the law were both manipulated in a myriad of ways in order to satisfy an executive desire for domination and destruction of a Ba'athist Iraq. In all of these cases, American citizens were objectified as means to an end, rather than individuals with Creator-granted unalienable rights, safe from excessive government interference and control."

"It all points to growing DC anti-constitutionalism," continued Kwiatkowski, "and what Dr. Robert Higgs calls the growth of the warfare state. A warfare state is wholly incompatible with a constitutional Republic. In my opinion, we need to fight, resist, refuse to subsidize Washington in every way, and we must immediately begin impeachment proceedings against this particular president, not only because he has clearly earned impeachment, but in order to revive a national awareness of the intent of the Founding Fathers to circumscribe centralized state power, and their vision of a free and peaceful Republic."

[adigal]

3. In my view, this is the only reason he did not get

wiretaps authorized by the judges - because he was spying on political opponents!!! Nothing else makes sense, and I bet the NY Times has some names.

[indie_voter]

8. I couldn't agree more

If he was spying on people with even the most tenuous Islamic connections, like somebody calling their mom in Pakistan, he would have gotten authorization.

Why bypass the law? He was spying on his domestic opponents, be it peace groups, Democrats, journalists.

This is why the "Who" needs to come out.

If the NYT has this info and believe in America, they should publish it IMMEDIATELY.

[Newsjock]

4. Perhaps the ACLU might be releasing a new document on Tuesday

Making such allegations. Groups such as, say, PETA, might have hypothetically been targeted. I speak hypothetically, of course.

[Straight Shooter]

11. Of course you speak hypothetically.

But, nonetheless, I presume you speak accurately. ;)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

5. What Concerns Me Is The Law Of Six Degrees Of Seperation

Ok, so it's not a real law but don't be petty. The law of six degrees of seperation would make it as such that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US technically has ties to al-qaeda. So as long as he is allowed to use that as the excuse, there can always be a link enough found to justify. That is pretty fuckin scary.

[johnnypneumatic]

7. OMG Kevin Bacon linked to Osama

The Bush administration discovers a link between Kevin Bacon and Osama Bin Laden within six degrees of separation and orders secret illegal tap of his phones.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. You just don't get it do you.......

[BelgianMadCow]

9. Considering? CONSIDERING?

*several redacted rude words here*

Yeah, we should all get on our knees and pray for an inkling of information!

What are they doing, weighing the extra income from a "splash" against the further damage to their credibility?

:mad:

[Halliburton]

10. Rove must've threatened them at the last minute

COME ON FITZ!

[BelgianMadCow]

13. I'm going with ConvenientAmnesia (TM) pills wearing off

still a little bit foggy, but hey, isn't that a conscience over there in the corner by the dustbin?

Da Pillz have been bought up in humongous quantities by the cabal for under their Fitzmas tree, see!

[BuyingThyme]

12. NYT Release: He Told Us in '63 -- Bush Killed JFK.

We didn't know it was a big deal.

Our bad.