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The Whiskey Priest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:54 PM
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Prediction: Shi’a Government will tell US to Remove Troops Before March 06
It appears that the Shi’a party that is aligned with Iran is winning and will form the new government. If this happens, it will knock the Republican’s War into a cocked-hat. We will have given blood and treasury to end up with a government that will be staunch allies with a sworn enemy. So much for Republican’s grand strategy of building democracy in the mid-east.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:55 PM
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1. To Quote John Lennon..
Instant Karma's gonna getcha...

Looks like the "perfect storm" for Mssrs. Bush and Cheney.

Impeachment is gonna happen...

:)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:58 PM
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2. From your keyboard to Goddess' eyes
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 06:45 PM by Juniperx
Democracy is not for everyone. This is a very old culture we are screwing with. They deserve to have it their way.
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tom swift Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:04 PM
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5. Kurdistan
The only thing tempering that scenario is the Kurdish element. The UIA may not win enough seats to appoint the President so who they ally with makes a difference. I agree with the risk that they will tell us to leave pretty shortly after forming a government. The Sunni uprising,though, is more likely to worsen which could slow the timetable.

Iran is likely to be content with a gradual pull-out but one that will be complete rather than leaving troops and bases behind like Germany.Korea etc.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:01 PM
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3. BushCo's strategy was never to build democracy
It's to spread American imperialism. Er, "leadership."
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:02 PM
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4. But won't we then have to invade Iran?
Because if we don't have a venue for more soldiers to die, it will mean that all of the soldiers who died in Iraq died in vain!

:sarcasm:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:16 PM
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6. depends on negotiations with al sistani
and the u.s.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:34 PM
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7. The sooner the better for everyone. It would really put the * junta
to the test, wouldn't it. They must be scared shitless of it happening, actually.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:05 PM
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8. That would be prudent, considering this -
Published on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 by CBC / Canada
Sunni Arabs Call Baghdad Election Results Fraudulent, Demand Redress
by Jason Straziuso


BAGHDAD - Sunni Arabs on Tuesday protested the partial election results released a day earlier, calling them a "falsification of the will of the people" and saying evidence of fraud was abundant.

Sunni Arab officials suggested that the country's security and stability were at stake if their complaints about last week's parliamentary vote were not addressed. Officials concentrated their protests on results from Baghdad province, the country's biggest electoral district.

Election officials said the United Iraqi Alliance - a Shiite party - took about 59 per cent of the vote from 89 per cent of ballot boxes counted in Baghdad province. The Sunni Arab Iraqi Accordance Front received about 19 per cent, and the Iraqi National List headed by Ayad Allawi, a secular-minded Shiite, got about 14 per cent.

Adnan al-Dulaimi, head of the Iraqi Accordance Front, a coalition of three major Sunni Arab groups, said his party of Sunni Arabs rejected those results. The party said officials still had time to correct any mistakes, but if that wasn't done the results would be "grave repercussions on security and political stability."

more...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1220-07.htm
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:52 PM
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9. The election was probably a MAJOR mistake
Consider this - a Shi'ite Iranian supported government forms in Iraq (seems most likely at the moment). The government then orders the withdrawl of US troops. The US of course refuses and says they can only leave once the Iraqi government is able to fight the insurgency. The Shi'ite government says "No problem, we have invited our neighbour Iran to send forces to train our military and to help fight the insurgency. They will be entering Iraq shortly..."

What does the US do then?

The "democratically elected" and "sovereign" government of Iraq has ordered the US to leave and has invited Iran to send in its military. For the US to do ANYTHING other than pull out confirms that the US is NOT interested in a sovereign Iraq, and will have proven the entire war to be a war crime.

If the US doesn't pull out, then Iranian troops will be LIBERATING Iraq from foreign occupation at the request of the legitimate and UN recognised Iraqi government.

Hello WWIII.
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The Whiskey Priest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:21 PM
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10. Your stated premise is exactly how I envision it going down.
and the quandary in which it will place us is as you state. The Republican's dream is about to come crashing down on them. We should continually refer to this war as the Republican's war...
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