mopaul
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:15 PM
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there is NOTHING bush can do to regain his post 9-11 glory, nothing |
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not even another terror attack.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:17 PM
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1. Another terrorist attack would be even worse for the Bush |
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After all these assaults on American freedom, and all the billions spent, and all the hype about the war on terror, a successful attack would just solidify in everyone's mind Bush's gross and incalculable failure to protect this nation.
And the GOP would burn in hell with him.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:21 PM
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Before the hurricane and the incredibly botched FEMA activities, I'd have given it even odds helping or hurting.
Now people know he's been appointing witless cronies who demanded payback for fat checks but who have no clue how to do any of the jobs.
They won't accept another attack with rally round the flag, boys. They'll want to ride him out of town on the flagpole.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:18 PM
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2. I never quite understood..... |
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Bush's post 911 glory. What did he do to earn it?
Ignore threats from al-Queda before 911?
Ignore threatening PDBs?
Ignore Richard Clarke before 911?
Sit in a classroom while the country was under attack?
What did Bush do to earn that GLORY? Because he went to the site of the World Trade Center days after the 911 attacks, stood on dead bodies with a bullhorn and shouted out to the terrorist?
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mopaul
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:19 PM
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4. but we do remember how they called him Lincolnian & Churchillian |
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i thought someone was putting lsd in my coffee for 4 straight years
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:19 PM
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5. unfortunately the "bullhorn moment" sealed the deal |
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I am as baffled as you are....
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:45 PM
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18. You mean the bullhorn moment when he clambered up on top |
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of the pile of his citizens' bodies?
I think that was the most appalling thing I ever saw. There were hundreds of bodies buried in that rubble, and he used them to make political points.
The moment cemented my despising of him.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:23 PM
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This country is all about images and he captivated many with that bullhorn moment.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:24 PM
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12. It was all about the bullhorn and the "Dead or Alive" talk. |
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:27 PM
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14. I've never understood this either. |
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It seems to be something about the bullhorn. Me, I still thought he was a jerk.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:29 PM
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15. People will rally around the worst leaders when they're attacked. |
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This is one of the great lessons of history, and why a lot of tinpot dictators have forced their countries into unnecessary wars when their popularity was extremely low.
Look at Milosevic. Before the Clinton bombing, there was a huge and growing resistance movement. When Clinton bombed, people rallied around Milosevic and the resistance was shut down. Bombing Serbia bought him at least an extra six months in power.
That's why the campaign of weekly terra alerts made that election so close in 2004. People were looking for protection. The threat was fake, but it scared them, nonetheless.
However, the response to a real disaster has awakened too many of us. We know he's all image and no substance, that he's done nothing to protect us other than PR and fakery. Shoot, look at the threat posed by the explosives stolen here in NM. That hasn't resulted in much of a jump in his approval rating.
The game is over. Another terra attack will turn enough people against him that he would not be able to continue the offic.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:33 PM
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16. It's not what he did or didn't do that's the problem |
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It is the propaganda spewed by the corporate media commentariat. If Time/CNN, Washington Post/Newsweek, the New York Times, ABC, NBC, CBS and Faux lined up like they did against Clinton, the little emperor wouldn't last two weeks. His prestige was purely a media creation. I still await adequate media (and opposition party) questioning about how 9/11 occurred. These media failures are not accidental nor the product of incompetence alone. The system is broken and the people cannot hope to prevail without profound reform.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:54 PM
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The giant Bush PR machine, we call the MSM, mobilized on cue to turn what could be viewed as a gross incompetence AT BEST, into the birth of a hero-war-president. Crazy sick. I'm certain this country's best days are behind us.
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Thu Dec-22-05 04:34 PM
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24. Well you have to remember |
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that at the time of the Bullhorn Moment no one in the general public had ever heard of Richard Clarke, and PDB sounded like something you would make insulation from.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:18 PM
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3. I think another attack |
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will do one of two things:
1. Bring on the dictatorship-this will work only if the neocons have the audacity to seize power.
2. Bring down the Bush Administration-the sheeple will finally see what a lousy job he's done to secure this country. This would be especially true if we are struck at one of our many vulnerable areas that Homeland Security has underfunded.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:21 PM
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6. Sept.11 2001 the day bush fooled the nation... |
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and is searching for that "Bullhorn Moment"that will never come again !! Hell,one sneak attack is enough for me. Meanwhile,400 lbs. of high explosives from New Mexico and 600lbs.of plutonium have come up missing from Los Alamos. Will we soon be "nuked?"
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:49 PM
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19. Oh no, I have missed this. What about missing explosives/Pu? |
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My God, when did this happen? I have been asleep under a rock (well, actually, under 8 mos. of growing baby) and have not been paying attention as I have in the past. Link so I can catch up?
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Thu Dec-22-05 03:00 PM
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News results for missing C-4 explosives - View today's top stories Federal Investigators Probe High-Tech Explosives Theft - ABC News - Dec 20, 2005
150 pounds of explosives missing in Albuquerque Some reports are more like 500 lbs. of missing C 4, in this deal. ... This was C-4, "plastic" explosive, with a detonation velocity of 5 miles per second. ... www.freenewmexican.com/news/36609.html - 47k - Dec 20, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
truthout - Massive Cache of Explosives Missing in Iraq C-4 or its main ingredients were used in the October 2000 bombing of the USS ... on Missing Iraq Explosives, Massive Cache of Explosives Missing in Iraq ... www.truthout.org/docs_04/102604Z.shtml - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
Massive Cache of Explosives Missing in Iraq UN: Explosives Missing from Former Iraq Atomic Site By Louis Charbonneau ... The missing explosives could potentially be used to detonate a nuclear weapon ... www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_102604Z.shtml - 12k
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:22 PM
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8. The WH has been working hard at the Goering approach without |
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Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 02:23 PM by AlinPA
success lately, but may work if they raised their colored alerts to "red" and had the media continuously pound on it for a week or so. (It worked in the past, so they could trot it back out again)
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.
All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
-Hermann Goering, S.S., Nazi Germany
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:23 PM
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And, i might add, the "post 9/11 glory" was an illusion fed by a need for revenge. The Professor
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:24 PM
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11. If we had another terrorist attack |
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then they would not be able to justify their wiretaps and the patriot act. They are constantly telling us that because of these things we have not had another attack. We all know that is bull poop. We have not been attacked because the terrorists just have not done it yet. When they are ready, they will do it. There is very little that we can do. I think next year is going to be a very bad year for bushco. There are so many issues just waiting to explode: The CIA leak, Abramoff, Iraq, etc. I just keep holding my breath waiting for one or more of these issues to come to fruition. I also read something about our fuel prices going up 50 cents per gallon due to new rules on removing certain contaminants. Since his poll numbers started to fall after Katrina, it is my opinion that many people were not bothered by the other issues such as Iraq, etc. But as soon as they had to pay more at the pump, they started to get really pissed off! Just my opinion. Sorry for the rant but I am getting anxious waiting for that shoe to drop and hit that idiot right in the head. I want my country back.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:25 PM
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13. WHAT post 9-11 glory? |
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people "approved" of bush kicking the taliban's ass at 90%. they did not approve of My Pet Goat.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:34 PM
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17. All he can do is attempt to increase his powers |
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and that can only occur with a declared war.
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Thu Dec-22-05 02:57 PM
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21. True, but he's going to have one hell of an uphill battle |
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getting Congress to declare war in the current climate of suspicion and a declared war would almost certainly mean reinstating the draft. I think a war in Iran (or elsewhere) would backfire badly.
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Thu Dec-22-05 03:15 PM
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23. This might be a good time for an attack in, say, Paris |
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or Manilla, or Bali, or London or Madrid. Outsourcing the terror would be more prudent at this point.
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Thu Dec-22-05 04:53 PM
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25. True, but considering that it was made up out of whole cloth to begin with |
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Thu Dec-22-05 05:05 PM
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26. Another Terrorist Attack = Martial Law |
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I think many are overlooking the fact that another terrorist attack will automatically bring martial law. They've as much as admitted that. Which is why I'm amazed that it hasn't happened yet (either MIHOP or LIHOP.) Obviously Bushitler wouldn't need to give a damn about regaining any lost glory if his dream of complete military dictatorship were fulfilled.
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