Yavin4
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Tue Dec-27-05 03:27 PM
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If Dems Do Not Re-Take Congress in '06, Bush Will Invade Iran |
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If the Democrats do not re-take the congress, then Bush will see that as the ultimate sign that the people endorse the neo-con policy of pre-emptive war in the Middle East. Without having to face re-election, without having to worry about control of congress, and without worrying about his political future at all, he will then decide to launch a full-scale invasion of Iran.
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Tue Dec-27-05 03:27 PM
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1. He can't afford to wait that long |
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He needs us in another war so he can claim he cannot be investigated or impeached.
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Lyle
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Tue Dec-27-05 03:31 PM
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2. I agree...he needs another war or a "terrorist" strike... |
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...so he can claim martial law and remove the nuisance of elections.
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wake.up.america
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Tue Dec-27-05 03:47 PM
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4. Europe wants to negotiate, offers economic, technical and... |
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political cooperation.
The US, above all, fears Tehran will use uranium enrichment to develop atomic weapons.
The Western Alliance is creating plans, not for an invasion but for air attacks on select targets, should negotiations by the Europeans and military pressure by the Americans not be successful.
From "Tagesspiegel"
Nicht in allernächster Zeit Die westlichen Verbündeten seien davon in Kenntnis gesetzt worden, dass Armeeexperten noch einmal die iranischen Anlagen ins Auge fassen sollten, die als Ziel von Militärschlägen in Frage kämen, schreibt das Blatt. Eine Invasion sei nicht im Gespräch, einzelne Aktionen wie Luftangriffe würden aber nicht ausgeschlossen. Die Planungen hierfür würden gegenwärtig aktualisiert. Der Nato-Partner Türkei habe bereits darüber berichtet, dass die USA sich auch auf die militärische Option vorbereiteten. Im Kreis der amerikanischen Verbündeten werde übereinstimmend aber nicht damit gerechnet, dass Militärschläge in allernächster Zeit bevorstünden.
Europäer wollen verhandeln Vor einer Woche hatten sich diplomatische Vertreter Deutschlands, Frankreichs, Großbritanniens und Irans darauf verständigt, dass die Europäische Union und Teheran ihre Bemühungen um die Wiederaufnahme von Atomverhandlungen im Januar fortsetzen wollen. Am Dienstag bestätigte die Regierung in Teheran den Erhalt eines russischen Vorschlags, nach dem Russland für Iran Uran anreichern will.
Druck auf Teheran Die EU will Iran dazu bringen, ganz auf die Urananreicherung im eigenen Land zu verzichten. Im Gegenzug haben die Europäer Teheran ein umfassendes wirtschaftliches, technisches und politisches Kooperationsabkommen angeboten. Vor allem die USA befürchten, dass Teheran Nuklearprogramm zum Bau von Atombomben missbrauchen könnte. Washington will sich dem "Tagesspiegel" zufolge aber nicht unabsehbar lange hinhalten lassen. Die militärische Option zu diesem Zeitpunkt in die Öffentlichkeit zu bringen, solle auch den Druck auf Teheran ein weiteres Mal erhöhen, hieß es weiter.
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Tue Dec-27-05 03:44 PM
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Your thread title says it all; bumper sticker, talking point and campaign slogan all in one.
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Tue Dec-27-05 03:52 PM
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5. What if Dems make strong gains and take back one house |
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but not both? I don't know - this could happen, but it doesn't seem likely to me. For one thing I'm not sure we have the military strength to hold Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran all at once. For another, unless Republicans makes gains (and that seems very unlikely), it's going to be hard for them to argue that the election means we should invade Iran (unless the Republicans make that the campaign issue of the election cycle). Bryant Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Yavin4
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Tue Dec-27-05 04:03 PM
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6. Either the House or the Senate Will Do |
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The key is subpoeana power. As we pull out of Iraq, we will re-constitute for an invasion of Iran. Also, they don't care about military strength. If we suffer heavy casualties, then the draft will be re-instituted.
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Tue Dec-27-05 04:26 PM
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7. every time this comes up, I have to ask, "With what Army??" |
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the men and vehicles are worn out, we can't produce enough bullets for the war(s) we have ongoing now
he just doesn't have the resources to do it, which is not to say he wouldn't LIKE to, he just can't
Thank Heaven
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Tue Dec-27-05 06:40 PM
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12. Who needs an "army" when we've got NUKES! |
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Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 06:44 PM by TankLV
Don't think that's what they're planning? Think again.
They already LIED to start the ILLEGAL war, they've already PROVEN they don't care about the troops THEY sent to their deaths - as long as it is not someone THEY personally know.
They already have OUR troops in harms way.
So they shoot off a couple nukes. They kill a few hundred thousand of our own troops, whip up another media and nationwide war FRENZY just like the last time and viola! They have a two-fer!
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Tue Dec-27-05 04:38 PM
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8. PLEASE REFER TO THIS THREAD |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5689821&mesg_id=5689821No bush will not attack iran unless they cut off our oil supply. Oh and if he DOES attack iran he is a complete dumbass. Hell his buddies wouldn't even allow him to do it
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Tue Dec-27-05 05:43 PM
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9. Well we know that Bush* is not a complete dumbass |
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Tue Dec-27-05 05:47 PM
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10. Attack with who and what, exactly? |
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Pull troops from Iraq? Afghanistan? You need boots on the ground for an invasion, and those boots are stretched kinda thin at the moment.
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Tue Dec-27-05 06:31 PM
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Only way is to institute the draft...
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TankLV
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Tue Dec-27-05 06:44 PM
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14. see my post 12 above. |
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Tue Dec-27-05 06:44 PM
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13. We can easily attack Iran from the air. No army necessary for that. |
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We can perforate their infrastructure using a combination of airstrikes and cruise missile strikes. Whether or not it is viable is a different question, but on the list of things that can be done, airstrikes are more easily achievable than a full-blown ground invasion.
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Tue Dec-27-05 06:50 PM
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15. You're assuming that Herr Busch has common sense.... |
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...that has yet to be proven.
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Tue Dec-27-05 10:09 PM
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16. I agree. I believe that a Dem could run and win in 2006 on the |
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basis of two campaign promises, (1) if elected, I will work toward a Bush impeachment and (2) promise that the U.S. will attack no country, government, or leader unless there is verified hard evidence that they present a real danger to American security.
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Tue Dec-27-05 10:13 PM
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17. What about Columbia or Syria? |
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Are they not likely candidates as well?
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