finally, people are openly using the "I" word

[mopaul]

impeachment

[Terwilliger]

1. Not Graham! He qualified it with "the subject of impeachment...

will be academic" :wow:

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[Walt Starr]

4. Yep, Bob had me then he lost me

I was set to be firmly in the Bob Graham camp as soon as the news broke.

After he backpedalled he lost me for good during the primaries.

[lkinsale]

10. Graham did not "backpeddle" on anything

He said what he said, twice. Once at the NAACP and again on MSNBC.

Democratic candidates take stage at NAACP Convention July 15, 2003

...Graham intensified his criticisms, telling reporters before the candidates' forum that Bush's deceptions would land him in more trouble if the Democrats controlled Congress.

''If the standard of impeachment that the Republicans set for Bill Clinton, that a personal, consensual relationship was the basis for impeachment, would not a president who knowingly deceived the American people about something as important as whether to go to war meet the standard of impeachment?'' Graham said.

He said the same thing on MSNBC, and they ran the headline that he was calling for impeachment.

He did not recant or change what he said. He repeated it twice. If you and MSNBC over-interpreted it, that's your issue. But don't claim he "backpeddled" what he said.

[GBD4]

5. Whoa!

Because the Republican Congress will never impeach him! You and everyone else knows that! Let time take its course, and maybe then the evidence will have mounted so high that it'll be under more consideration. To the Repubs, the current situation is perfectly acceptable.

Further, Graham said this current charge against Bush is more serious than the charges Clinton was impeached for. He never took Bush's side at any point in this issue.

[lkinsale]

7. Well, it sure burned the freepers that he dared use the word...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=57836&mesg_id=57836&page=

Freeps on Bush's press conf today:

We should send a copy of this to the RAT candidates for President starting with Graham! He is mad and the RATs are right in the center of the target!

Deary me! ;)

[MattNC]

2. mixed feelings

If a strong case be made for impeachment against Bush, then so be it. But I, for one, really hope it doesn't come to that. I hated the way this country was torn apart over the Clinton impeachment, and I don't want to see that happen again, which it will if impeachment arises.

Of course, I think a lot of this talk is just indeed "talk", as I can't picture Congress impeaching him -- barring some "smoking gun" against Bush.

[mopaul]

3. at least graham says this qualifies as impeachable, using THEIR rules

and i doubt there will be an impeachment, but they are at least using the word. i believe at this point we can rest assured that jr. inherited his daddy's one term syndrome

[MattNC]

6. not convinced

Granted I'm not 100% up-to-speed on this issue, but I'm not entirely convinced Bush is the culprit here. I've always thought this administration is 'president by committee' and Bush just listens to whoever he feels like.

My money is on Cheney and the other neo-cons as being the one's to blame. But like I said, I don't know as much about this as some of you do.

[GayboyBilly]

8. Dear mixed feelings

Impeachment is a politcal process. You cannot impeach a popular President. Just ask President Clinton He will tell you so. The Country was not torn apart, just the Rebublican party. Tha majority of American's said no to Impeachment of President Clinton. Impeachment is a Politcal tool to remove a unpopular President. Bush could very well become a unpopular President (with the economy & the war in Iraq going south). If the American people start demanding Impeachment and Congress refuses to act, they (Congress)will see the wrath of the American voter in the next Election (Gerald Ford can tell you the wrath of the American Voter).

P.S. you need what is called a super majority (2/3) vote in the Senate to Impeach the President. At the time of Impeachment of President Clinton The Senate was Republican controlled. Not only did they not get a 2/3, they did not even get a majority. Why the American people said no, and certain Senators knew what would happen...

[Catherine Vincent]

12. Hear! Hear!

I hear that all the time about this country being torn apart with the bogus impeachment. Not over some freaking sex lie. If anything, people were educated with the impeachment process. It also showed that a popular president can be impeached by a partisan congress. And thankfully the Senate voted otherwise.

The republicans in congress have forever opened my eyes on their nastiness.

[lanlady]

13. same here

I'd rather he lose the election, go down like his daddy. It will taint the Bushes forever as one-termers.

It's a measure of how corrupt our system's become that the idea of impeachment has become commonplace.

[Friar]

18. We'll be torn apart if we DON'T impeach

the unelected fraud.

[polpilot]

9. Impeach the lying, murdering bastard. His smirky insolence and

flippancy regarding the murder of children and innocent U.S. soldiers demand investigation AND impeachment. Their Hitler-like propoganda machine fueled with lies swayed the easily led and destroyed the lives of many forever. Put the bastard in chains and point out a rock pile for him to start on.

Behind bars in stripes is where he belongs along with half his family.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. There won't be time for impeachment

W & Co. are being tried in the court of public opinion.

Resigning in disgrace is much more likely. At least, I hope that's the way it goes. The alternative is much, much worse.

[xray s]

14. I like this I word better...

Imprisonment

[xray s]

15. I like this "I" word better...

Imprisonment

[Q]

16. No more of this 'wait and see' attitude...

...and who really gives a shit if the GOP congress won't impeach? The idea is to keep the pressure ON BUSH* and his criminal administration.

[mopaul]

17. the lies are piling up

[opihimoimoi]

19. Poor losing record...... fire the bum

then we party