Wesley Clark to be on Hannity & Colmes. . .

[wndycty]

. . .it will be interesting to see piss boy Hannity try to take him on. Anybody up for watching tonight?

[Noon_Blue_Apples]

1. Thank God

We don't get Faux Newz is Canada.

Bill

[TheBigGuy]

2. Again?

I thought he was on their show a week or two ago?

[Cush]

3. I can see it now

Hannity: "General, you are an unpatriotic commie bastard"

[wndycty]

4. I am sure Wesley crush him!

:kick:

[bluestateguy]

5. I hope Handjob will try to call him "soft"on defense

That would be comincal to watch.

[wndycty]

6. Off topic. . .

. . .but why is Sean Hannity asking Cummings (D) if he would support a Republican candidate.

[Cush]

7. up soon ...kick

FOX must be scared of him, he'll have what, 5 minutes?

[alfredo]

26. He was very good

Hannity tried to trick him but it didn't work. Wesley was too smart, and too quick to be bamboozled.

[FlashHarry]

8. Only Clark could get me to watch this crap.

I've been watching for half an hour. How the hell does anyone take this shit?

[Kahuna]

12. Me too Harry. I thought long and hard before..

I turned to FAUX... It's worth it though. My goodness he's good.

[wndycty]

9. Cool as a cat. . .

Hannity tried a trick question! (Can you believe that!) Clark did not flinch!

[59millionmorons]

This is one smooth cat

That's why he is my guy. It doesnt hurt that he has that mature handsome look either. I would love to see him in a debate turn to Bush and ask him "why did your administration call me after 911 and plead for me to say this was all Saddam's fault". What the hell is Bush going to say?

[Cush]

10. Clark rocks

Hannity tried to trick him into saying the D's are hypocrites.

He said that those comments from 98 were before Operation Desert FOX. And from what he heard, the strikes were quite successful. He also asked why no one ever mentioned that before.

[Kahuna]

15. Is Clark da bomb or what????????????

He is too good to be true. Handsome, smart, strong, brave and progressive.

[Kahuna]

11. OMG.... He is just wonderful....

Asking for an investigation about why we went to war...

Smooth as silk.. It's halftime. I guess after the commercial Sean gets a crack at him.

[wndycty]

13. The Constitution of the United States does not say. . .

. . .the end justifies the means. Classic.

[Kahuna]

20. He's playing with Hannity now...

AND... He did slip and say, he will 'run as a concerned citizen.' He said he's close to a decision. I think he's gonna do it.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[FlashHarry]

14. American Democracy is more important than Saddam Hussain.

Quoth Clark.

[Cush]

16. Oh boy

Clinton bombed an asprin factory...blah blah blah...it's political...blah blah blah....

Clark: People asked for an investigation. WHen we were in Kosovo, Republicans.....(Sean cuts him off)

What you republicans you demanded from CLinton, you don't demand from Bush

[RememberJohn]

17. He just punked out Hannity!

Hell yes! (fist clinched!)

[wndycty]

18. What you all demanded of Clinton. . .

. . .you are not demanding of Bush. Take that Hannity!

[Kahuna]

21. He sure did say that. He was absolutely awesome.

[59millionmorons]

19. have to give this round to Clark

He knocked Hannity out cold. Damn I love this guy.

[HerbieHeadhunter]

22. He had me at hello....

OK, just joking....but damn, he has the temperament and the intelligence. I'm becoming more and more convinced that he could make an incredible candidate and President.

[wndycty]

24. As I said before. . .he is a cool cat!

:kick:

[Kahuna]

25. LOL! That was a good one. The best part is...

so many people feel that way. Not just you.

[MattNC]

23. way to go!

Great job by the General! I like nothing more than Hannity being taken to school.

[StClone]

29. Clark: Top of the CLass at West Point

Hannity a freeping drop out. Autodidaticism may work for geniuses but not Shame Hanjobbity.

[MattNC]

37. did he really drop out? n/t

[Cush]

27. I think Hannity is scared of Clark

Did you see the look on his face when he was asking Clark if he would run as a Dem?

he looked scared shitless, he knows that 'anti american' crap won't work on Clark

[Kahuna]

28. Hannity said, you're gonna run as a dem aren't you..

Clark replied, I'm going to run as a concerned citizen!!!!!!!!!

OMG... We need this guy so bad. The country needs him and the Democratic party needs him to heal and bring the party back together. He can show the dems how to be leaders and to not be afraid to say what they really think.

[madmax]

30. Please RUN Clark!!

My husband saw him a few months ago on tv and said, this is the guy to kick bush's ass out of the white house.

He's the greatest, imho :P I'm always a little late posting because I don't have a tv near the computer.

[Donna Zen]

31. transcript?

No Faux on my cable...usually this is a very good thing.

[Kahuna]

32. I don't know about a transcript. This would be more..

along the line of you had to be there. You would need to see how relaxed and rested he looked. He was very well spoken, as usual. But there was a bit more vibrancy and lilt to his delivery. He smiled more. And he taunted Sean a little bit in the way he answers the very few questions Sean got to ask him. If you know somebody with FAUX and a VCR or DVD recorder, it will replay 2am est. Maybe you can get someone to tape it for you.

[Donna Zen]

34. Thanks

n/t

[AbbPoacher]

33. Draftwesleyclark.com files w\ FEC as a offical committee

<http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=123-07172003>

[Big Questions]

35. Oh man

I'm so angry that I missed it. I started watching "H&C" but came downstairs to my computer in my basement.

I'm going to watch the repeat to see General Clark beat the shit out of Hannity. That'll certainly put me in a good mood.

Clark simply has to run. He could be the savior of the Democratic party.

[Julien Sorel]

36. The Democratic Party doesn't need a savior.

But the nation needs Clark. Now.

Anyone think he's 'just a retired General' any more? It almost makes me wish I watched TV.

[Big Questions]

41. We do

We do need a savior. Did you see Clark tonight? Calm, composed, intelligent, well spoken. He didn't bend over for Hannity and his pathetic nature. He's the answer for all the Democrats who want to fight effectively but are trying to figure out how to do so, or so I think. Did you see how quickly Hannity shut his fucking mouth after Clark put those quotes in context?

He's got an impeccable background. Can you imagine someone with that sort of experience and those sort of credentials arguing against Bush or Cheney over national security and military matters?

I could go on and on, but we need someone who can effectively fight the Republicans in 2004. He seems to be on the right side of most policy matters, so why not bring him in to render any comments about the Democrats being soft on national defense and military matters meaningless?

[Kahuna]

45. We should do a seperate thread on whether the..

Democratic party needs a savior. :D

[chaska]

38. Wow, no negative replies???

I saw it. Man, that was great! I think that's the bset I've seen the General yet. He kicked some serious butt. That's my candidate. Ya'll have sent your letters (through one of the Draft Wesley Clark sites) in to the General, right? Come join us over in the Yahoo group.

Kahuna is you's a chick? I thought you was a guy. I admire how you can keep on kickin' it for the General without getting disgusted by the assinine negative attacks. Kudos.

[Kahuna]

46. Gee, tanks!

:D

[chaska]

39. From yahoo group

Due to the magic of TiVo, I recorded his exact statement. It was
this:

"Let me tell you this, I'm RUNNING as a concerned American patriot."

He didn't say if I run, he didn't say when I run, he said he
was "running." Obviously this isn't an official announcement, but it
gives us a real indication of where his thoughts lie. His "I'm
closing in" statement was also very indicative. I don't think you
use that language if you're going to pass.

[Donna Zen]

40. Out of character

A well-informed friend of mine said that it would be out of character for Clark to let this go on for so long if he did not intend to run. He doesn't play those games. That same person also said that that there were people lining up many free appearances for Clark. Apparently, that has come true. Clark has met with the blue dogs and also is somehow connected to Ted Sorenson. I wondered when the Truman diary came out recently reporting that Ike had first been considered to run as a Dem., but the Dems turned the offer down, if Sorenson, an historian, was behind a message. The last bit of information that this person gave me was that the heavy hitters from Clinton's campaigns nation wide are holding back signing on to anyone else. Why?

Oh_one other thing. Money is currently being channeled to groups that will be running the issue ads rather than given to a specific candidate. No matter who secures the nomination, this is good news. However, I took it to mean that those people who considered dim-son a train wreck, are ready to put up the kind of money to match mr. repub. fundraiser efforts and Clark is their choice.

[Big Questions]

43. What?

I read that in The Times recently, but I thought bought parties actively sought Ike and that he picked the Republicans by choice.

Anyway, I hope Clark decides to run soon.

[Kahuna]

47. I'm thinking... It's like an audition for the...

money folks. I find it hard to believe that the Hollywood crowd... at least some of them, wouldn't get as excited as we are. The way he's navigating, they get a chance to see him and decide if they want to contribute to his potential campaign.

[Donna Zen]

50. Ike and Hollywood

Ike was suggested by Truman with Truman wanting the VP, but the D's rejected the notion and ran Truman. It was later that the R's picked up Ike who like most officers try to stay in the "non-partisan" catagory.

Interesting, and this is just speculation, that Clark's son is a screen writer.

[Big Questions]

42. Let us hope

Let us hope he's running. He's what the Democrats need.

If he does run, I hope he announces it on a Sunday or Monday morning. Announcing it on a Friday would be terrible, or so I think, because it's the start of the weekend, and by Monday, everyone would forget. If Clark is to enter the race right now, he needs to gain a solid footing quickly. He would have to make up for a lot of lost time. And if he announces his candidacy on a Sunday or Monday, maybe he'll be the talk of the town, for lack of a better phrase, which would help him make up for what he doesn't have.

[phishhead]

44. What happens if Clark decides to run..

But not as a Democrat?

[0007]

48. Read his article in Esquire magazine

....and you'll know the answer to your question.

[Big Questions]

53. All things Clark-related

We should start a thread that has all thinks related to Wesley Clark.

[Justice]

49. Wesley Clark Is Presidential on Fox; Graham Good on MSNBC

Wesley Clark was fantastic last night on H&C. Hannity seemed unable to muster the bluster to take him on. He didn't really try to interrupt him or talk over him until the baby aspirin thing.

Whenever I've heard him speak, Clark makes a point that otherwise gets little attention. He saw "tantalizing bits" of intelligence about Iraq when he was on the inside. He thought Saadam had some weapons based on this. But in 1998 we executed Operation Desert Fox, during which we bombed the heck out of Iraq (Zinni led that mission) and Clark says Zinni and others involved claim they think the got all the sites where weapons were claimed to have been. No one talks about this operation - no one talks about maybe the WMD is gone because of this operation.

When Hannity asked him if the Democrats were just playing politics by challenging Bush over the Niger story - Clark said - politics is part of who we are - what is wrong with politics entering into this discussion. He kept challenging Hannity's premise. Hannity was unable to come back with anything.

When I saw Clark over the weekend on a show, he said to justify the war, we needed to show more than a program of WMD, more than WMD, we needed to show that Saadam had a plan to use the WMD against us. He really laid out the case for why this was the threshold.

Not much has been said about it, but Bob Graham was on Tweety's show last night. He also spoke very well (with lots of distractions in the background). He said even if we find WMD (which he hoped we did because of our credibility issue) that didn't justify going after Iraq. He said in the war on terror - our priorities need to be Al Queda and Hamas. Iraq is not a threat to us, and we have lots valuable time and energy going after Iraq while in doing so, allowing the real terrorists time to regroup. He was really solid.

[chaska]

51. Scott Ritter said before the war 'no WMDs'

"Clark says Zinni and others involved claim they think they got all the sites where weapons were claimed to have been. No one talks about this operation - no one considers that maybe the WMDs are gone because of this operation."

I read an article before the war in which Scott Ritter (UNSCOM, Remember him?) said unequivocally that Iraq did not have wmds, that they were destroyed in '98 (I think it was '98). He said he believed thatt they still had some anthrax but that it was in an unusable form. It needed to be converted to a sprayable form (as opposed to a powder) to be used on the field of battle.

[Big Questions]

52. Imagine

To his credit, Hannity is a good speaker. He can often be a whiner, but more often than not, he's effective in getting his point across.

While Bush is not an idiot, he's usually inarticulate. Imagine how bad he would look versus Clark, an intelligent man who is also a good speaker.