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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:04 PM
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Haven't the Dems done MUCH more good than the Republicans
In response to what I consider to be a pretty thoughtless post, I have to bring up what the Democratic Party has done for America during the 21st century.

Succesfully rebuilt America following the Great Depression through the New Deal program.

Successfully defeated the Nazis, and the Japanese. We all know what the Nazis were capable of while most people, including the poster of the other thread, don't seem to realize the Japanese were just as terrible to the Chinese and our own troops who they took prisoner. See Nanking or the Batan March. Did I mention freeing France? Or crushing Fascism?

Diverted Nuclear war by standing down Krushchev during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Johnson successfully signed into law the most sweeping civil rights legislation of the 20th century.

Created the biggest economic expansion in our nations history during the 90's.


Now, compare that to the Republicans.







And ask yourself, what exactly has the Green Party done for America? How many Green Party members are in Congress? How many governors are members of the Green Party? Ambassadors? Any?

So what have the Greens done for America? I'll tell you, they helped elect George W. Bush. Thanks!
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:12 PM
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1. Thank you.
Obviously, it's impossible for certain people to admit that there are differences between the Dems and the Republicans. I can't tell whether it's self-destruction or what, but the Democratic party is the only hope to rid the world of G.W.B.

I would also like an answer: What have the Greens done for us lately? or ever.

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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:13 PM
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2. They have done a lot better than the Repukes
I'm disappointed because they haven't completely destroyed the repuke party by now when have had ample opportunity to do it.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:20 PM
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4. What do you suggest? brainwashing?
There is only so far Democrats can go without becoming Republicans. As we can see by lack of riots, radical leftists :) haven't yet mastered the skills of mind control.
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:22 PM
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6. Republicans
One or two things -- Lincoln was a republican, Teddy Roosevelt was a republican. Teddy did more during his presidency for this country than just about anybody else, maybe his cousin is a close second. Teddy gave us our National Park System, built up on defense, built the Panama Canal, enacted child labor laws and busted trusts. He defended the worker. Ike, well Ike finally said enough is enough on McCarthy. I think that is all the good stuff I have on the Republicans.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:08 PM
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11. Hehe
Ok, 90 years ago Teddy was cool. But he was a "progressive" Republican. And Lincoln was cool too, but of course that was 140 years ago.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:28 PM
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14. Remember Ike and Interstate Highways
Yes, the Dems supported this but Ike had been involved in this from back in the 30's when he was sent across the country to review and report on roads, highways, etc. and how it would affect the military. He spearheaded the Interstate Highway implementation.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:33 PM
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15. the Interstate systems projected function at the time was
evacuation of major cities in case of a nuclear attack.

it's major result has been the destruction of mass transit systems and creating a major dependance on petroleum products.
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:18 PM
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3. Read this article by George McGovern
"The Case for Liberalism"

http://humanities.psydeshow.org/political/mcgovern.htm

This was originally published in Harper's Magazine last winter. He follows the same premise and expands on it greatly. Excellent article.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:22 PM
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5. thank you for your response thread
:toast:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:22 PM
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7. ah, the weekly green bashing thread - how original!
complete with absurd assertions and all.

and you need look no farther than bill clinton as to why the chimp is in the WH. his self-indulgent extra-marital affair cost al gore a slam dunk victory in 2000.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:51 PM
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8. lol
Uhhh, you're bashing the Big Dawg? Are you a Republican?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:56 PM
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9. yeah, thought you might say that.
everyone who has a fair criticism of a dem. is a green or a repook, is that your assertion?

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:59 PM
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10. Nope, but it seems you just don't like anything
Nevermind all of the great things Clinton did, lets just focus on a blowjob. Sounds a tad bit shortsighted and self-destructive. Kind of like something a die-hard Republican would say.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:09 PM
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12. i really don't care the man got a hummer.
Edited on Thu Jul-17-03 10:19 PM by KG
but enough voters did to sway the election to the chimp.

it was his affair that was very short-sighted and self-destructive, not my assessment of his action, and what they wrought.

no blow job - no bush. now, what republican would say that?
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 10:12 PM
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13. Re: Nevermind all of the great things Clinton did...

like praising Bush the Elder's handling of Gulf War One as "expert crisis management";

like signing NAFTA and GATT into law, which sent hundreds of thousands of U.S. manufacturing jobs out of the country;

like openly supporting the death penalty;

like firing his surgeon general when she incurred the wrath of the Republican right wing by daring to suggest that masturbation was a viable alternative to teen pregnancy;

like having the military bomb an aspirin factory in the Sudan;

like bombing the crap out of the former Yugoslavia and still not removing Slobadan Milosevic from power. (It took an election to do that, remember?);

like signing the Telecommunications Act of 1996 into law, thus paving the way for the Clear Channels of this country to gobble up all the commercial radio stations and convert them into purveyors of mindless, homogenized blather.

Anyone who considers Bill Clinton a liberal is delusional.

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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:08 PM
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16. Good post
nt
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:17 PM
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17. Thanks for the post
and the timely reminder.
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LiberalLibra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 11:21 PM
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18. OH, of course NOT, you should know by now Dems are.....
...how does it go....spineless....uncaring for the Average American....can't run an economy (that good economy under Clinton was Bush I's doing don't you know.....Hillary tried to get a health care bill through Congress but someone blocked it, or yeah it was those bad Dems right?? or was it those great rethugs???

SARCISM OFF NOW

The worst Democrat is better than the best republican!!
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Mechatanketra Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 12:00 AM
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19. The danger of resting on one's laurels.
Republicans like to tout themselves as coming from "the party of Lincoln and Roosevelt". Of course, if Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt were alive today, they wouldn't have been allowed in the GOP (and in fact, Teddy had to bail on the GOP in his own lifetime). The progressive mindset that drove Republicans like Roosevelt and LaFollette eventually migrated to the Democratic party (much as the Democratic Party shed its segregationist wing to merge with the Republicans).

The same thing can happen to us. At the same time we puff up our chests at past Democratic achievements, I find myself wondering: would Franklin Roosevelt, or even Lyndon Johnson, be welcome in today's Democratic Party? Or would they be among the Feingolds and Wellstones or worse, the fringe from which the party insiders desperately attempt to "save" the party from so we don't look too liberal?

Just something I wonder about.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 12:44 AM
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21. YEEEEEEEEEEE - HAHHHHHH
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