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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:31 PM
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CEO of Eli Lily is warning about the danger of reimporting drugs from
Canada. Sidney Taurel is on Kudlow & Kramer. Yeah people are dying in the streets of Toronto from drugs imported from the US. What a greedy little fuck.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:35 PM
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1. So what's the implication?
Is Lily sending substandard and dangerous drugs to Canada? It's either that, or the greedy bastards want every cent they can squeeze out of every customer. I think we all know the real answer.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:42 PM
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3. Yupe
In the late 50's I was young, but I remember neighbors going to Juarez from El Paso to get medicines and the same crap about these same damn drugs were poisined cause they were bought in Juarez. Bought in Juarez or El Paso, they were made in Mexico.
DOWN with CORPORATE LIES! Corp akin to corpolites, fossilized shit!?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:41 PM
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2. The CEO is right, there is a danger in reimporting drugs from Canada...
the danger that Americans will actually have access to moderately priced medications and see the pharmacuticals for what they are, price gouging, bottom feeding corporations.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:45 PM
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4. Danger from Pharmacutical Corporations
Where is their heartfeld concern for the people that cannot afford to purchase the needed life-saving medications within the good old USA. People are dying in the street of American due to Corporation greed.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:45 PM
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5. Considering they get the same drugs, is the
CEO saying they are sending inferior medicine to Canada? I doubt it but Canadians should demand answers.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:51 PM
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7. He's saying improper controls on storage,shipping etc. Oh no nothing
wrong with our drugs. Danger,danger.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:50 PM
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6. Kudlow or is it Kramer,anyway, is screeching away, "What's wrong with
earning a profit on your investments. We'd really be importing price controls on drugs." Well, yeah.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 11:55 PM
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8. Wow, so Eli-Lilly is sending dangerous drugs to Canada!!
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:20 AM
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9. I hate Eli Lilly for the thimerosol-autism connection and the Patriot Act
I'm sure that must have been discussed here when it happened; I remember seeing some awfully convincing evidence in a CSpan program, and the cynicism of having their top guy appointed to Homeland Security and coincidentally voiding Eli Lilly's outstanding vaccine lawsuits stands out as one of the most callous and disgusting acts of this admiinistration. (And there's tough competition for that label, too.)
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:20 AM
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10. Someone had a thread a few days ago warning that Eli Lilly
has announced that in order to fight the nefarious habit that Americans have (trying to defend themselves from price gouging), they're going to start sending Canada only as much as they think the Canadian market needs, and no more.
As someone pointed out, this means that drug prices for Canadians will go up.
Also (repeating myself) the Bush family are huge shareholders in Lilly.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:43 AM
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13. Eli Lilly brought LSD to the US .
Now they are talking about the dangers of imported drugs? :eyes:
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:50 AM
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15. Wasn't that Sandoz?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:28 AM
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11. A link
http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/bastion.html

Google: "Eli Lilly"+LSD+CIA


Poppy Bush got a job on Lilly's board of directors from Dan Quayle's father. You should have seen the look on VP candidate Qualye's face when a reporter asked him why he thought Bush chose him for his running mate.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:00 AM
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17. Lily seems to stolen it from Sandoz...
and agreed to be the main supplier after Sandoz sort of had second thoughts about the whole thing:

http://www.iath.virginia.edu/~jmu2m/SLS.htm

Anyway, screw the CIA and their half-assed mind control plans. We all know it was really Leary and the Dead who made it real.

:wtf: was the name of that guy with the Sunshine factory who spread it all over the country? He got everyone setting up little acid operations.






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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 12:34 PM
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18. Good stuff, thanks
I had not heard of Sandoz. From memory I thought there was a link between Lilly and IG Farben and another IG Farben concoction called "Dolphamine" named in honor of Adolf Hitler. I would expect that Sandoz was linked to IG Farben. This is a good lead. Allen Dulles operated out of Switzerland via the branch of Shroeder bank and was quid pro quoed with German morphine for helping some "good nazis" escape. IMO alot of Nazi loot went to Shroeder bank there, BUT I have no proof. After General Patton's siezure of much of it it kind of dissappears...then Patton dies.

Sandoz could be connected to Farben.

Your link mentions a "Vannever Bush" at Los Alamos. I wonder if there is any connection to the First Family?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 12:47 PM
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19. Bingo!
http://www.babelmagazine.com/issue20/alternative3.html
LSD - its transportation and creation in the United States in the 1960 was not an accident. Sandoz Pharmaceuticals - the largest producer of LSD in the world - was a subsidiary of I. G. Farben (of Nazi infamy). Allen Dulles, who was the first CIA director, was also legal counsel to I. G. Farben. During the 1950's and 1960's, Dulles ordered over 100,000,000 doses of LSD from Sandoz for his CIA mind control projects.

Now I want to know the link between Sandoz and Shroeder Bank.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:50 AM
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14. The Danger of Importing Drugs
from Canada is only to Eli Lilly's profit margin.

Eli Lilly...my pet name for them is "We Lie Lilly..."
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:56 AM
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16. The only real concern from Canada is...
the storage and shipping environments of some drugs that are time and temperature sensitive. Some stuff must be kept refrigerated, and mailing them down here could kill you. But, your pharmacist or doctor knows which ones they are, and there aren't that many.

Reputable Canadian pharmacies shouldn't be shipping them anyway.

Mexico would scare me. There's a big trade in counterfeit drugs down there, and some of this stuff could kill you if not made under the right conditions, or the dosages were off.

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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:29 AM
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12. Have Gotten Mexican Drugs Before
All you need to do is look at all the labelling.
If it all looks the same, and the safety seals are intact, then it is the legit stuff.
I wouldn't do Mexican drugs now, I got Rx plan with my health ins...
But I did Mexican drugs several times when I was between jobs and had no health coverage.
You just gotta know what you are looking for. Go down there in person. Don't buy thru mail order from Mexico.
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srubick Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 12:52 PM
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20. cnn report this morning
said the cat is out of the bag. People are heading to Canada by the bus load. So far the government has supported the lie that the products may be substandard. Now they know the argument won't hold water so the only one left is the CEO of Lily. The drug companys ae now threatening the pharmacists and suppliers in Canada if they think they are selling to Americans.
We are so lucky to be living in a country where the free market rules!
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