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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:59 PM
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Poll question: What presidential candidate is the most credible?
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 03:01 PM by Bushknew
Sharpton and DK are the most credible candidates for me.

What they say is what the mean and I believe they would do what they say.

I donÕt feel the same way about the other candidates. They are two faced and not credible.

ShouldnÕt we pick the most credible candidate instead of who is more electable?











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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:01 PM
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1. Dean!
Dean!
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:01 PM
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2. Dean has been consistent in what he says, and
he has a record in Vermont of doing what he said he believes in. On the other hand, I'm not sure credibility is the thing we're looking for. Lots of politicians have tried to do things they believed in, and they failed. We need someone with the political ability to get things done.
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criticalwords Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:03 PM
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3. My response to Dean's supporters after last night...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 03:05 PM by criticalwords
"I thought that Dean's supporters were supposed to be educated in terms of the internet, and smart, but you people are stupid if you actually believe that EDWARDS WROTE THE FREAKING PATRIOT ACT!

That's a GOP tactic to try and squash the momentum that they see Edwards beginning to gain all over the place!

Why don't you utilize your mouse and address bar and go over to

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:S.1510: (make sure that when you click on the link you add the colon at the end, because the link will not add it)

and see for yourself!!!

GRRRRRRR!!! I HATE HOW THE MEDIA INTENTIONALLY SHAPES PUBLIC PERCEPTION AS I HAVE CONTINUOUSLY SAID!!!

NOW YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN!

Edwards wrote the Patriot Act? Please!!! How dumb is that, and you people actually believed it???

Grrrrr..."


EDWARDS WROTE THE PATRIOT ACT???

THAT'S STUPID! HE DIDN'T EVEN CO-SPONSOR IT.

Obviously, the Fox News Channel was trying to smear the one the GOP fears the most. Bob Graham actually co-wrote the bill...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:43 PM
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7. Hi criticalwords!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:


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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:14 PM
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4. Dean's Backroom Deals With Sharon Vs. His Rhetoric
Really created an enormous credibility gap for me. Not to mention this little tidbit:

Russert: ...and I'll show it to you. You said in January, Governor, "I would be surprised if didn't have chemicals and biological weapons."

Dean: Oh, well, I tend to believe the president. I think most Americans tends to believe the president.

Russert: What did you think of Senator John Kerry's comments that President Bush misled the country.

Dean: Well, I thought it was Senator Bob Graham that said that and I agree with that. And Bob Graham is in a position to know. He's a senior senator on the Intelligence Committee and...

Russert: No, John Kerry said the president misled us and...

Dean: Well, I wasn't aware that Senator Kerry said it. I knew Senator Graham had said it in Iowa. But I believe that. I think we were misled.

http://www.deanrocks.com/page.cfm?p=1&c=9

And yet in less than a month (6/22/03 to 7/25/03) Dean changed his tune quite a bit:

''A bunch of the people who voted for this war are now saying, `Well, we were misled,''' said Dean. ''The fact is you can't afford to be misled if you are running for president of the United States.''

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/206/oped/Dean_won_t_let_Kerry_off_the_hook+.shtml

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:22 PM
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5. Kerry by far
because he has the experience to back up what he says.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 05:25 PM
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6. Why would you knowingly pick the least electable candidates?
The purpose of this whole exercise, in case you've forgotten, is to take the White House back! :eyes:
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:53 PM
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8. Um, Pad? Did you actually read the question?
No offense, but what does electability have to do with CREDIBILITY? I don't think there was any mention of elections, just a pretty straight-forward question about credibility.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:28 PM
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11. Actually, there was a mention...
"... ShouldnÕt we pick the most credible candidate instead of who is more electable?...."
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:30 PM
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12. his opinion that is
Seeing how we are running neck and neck with Dean, I think maybe you should understand that while many wont give Kucinich a chance, they respect him. This poll is about crediblity not electablity.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:35 PM
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13. I'll concede that.
But why does no one address the other issue I raised about the purpose of the entire exercise? "Credibility", etc., is an issue, but what good is it if our candidate does not disposess * and his crypto-fascist minions in the WH? :shrug:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:39 PM
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14. What are you saying here?
Youre confusin me. How do you know for fact that Kucinich cant beat Bush? I wanna know where you got your crystal ball, just curious to know, because according to my watch its 8:37 on October 27, 2003. :shrug: I know you dont like it when people do this to you, why play the same game on us, I think our numbers are bigger than you think. Not saying we are as big as you all but I think youre underestimating.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:50 PM
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17. Above all else, I am a practical political person.
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 08:50 PM by Padraig18
You may well believe that DK is electable, as is your right; by the same token, I am entitled to believe that that is fantasy, JK. NOTHING is more important to me than kicking that bunch of crypto-fascist bottom dwellers out of the WH in Nov. 2004, and I will not let my genuine admiration for DK's personal integrity blind me to what I personally believe is the reality that he doesn't stand a chance of being the candidate who can accomplish that. Peace. :hi:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:22 PM
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10. I have the same question as diamond
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 08:27 PM by JohnKleeb
We're just behind ya. Crediblity and Electalbity are different, maybe I need to get you a dictionary dude but they are. Seeing how most polls are, this isnt totally just us, I think theres many that respect Kucinich. BTW who says he cant win, oh convential wisdom, convential wisdom says a lot of shit man, it said I couldnt dance with girls at homecoming, etc. Some people ask why and I ask why not to quote Shaw and RFK. I am impressed with my candiate here. The polls also reflect that people would vote happily most for him. So although he may be unelectable to most, hes respect as he should. Do tell I am curious to other than rhyming with each other, what crediblity and electablity have in common.
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haymaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:55 PM
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9. Bush, without a doubt, Bush.
Why isn't he in the poll.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:43 PM
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15. Clark. All Lieberman &mediawhores spin, the man spoke his convictions
always, no matter the cost.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:49 PM
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16. I'm a Dean supporter...
...but Kucinich is clearly the most credible.

As for Clark being high in the voting right now...wow. Just wow. Maybe he needs to actually REGISTER as a Dem before he can be credible as one???
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:51 PM
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18. See I told everyone we were getting swing votes
Funny heh. Go Kucinich.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:20 PM
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19. Joe Lieberman has the most credibility.
His policies have been the most consistent, and he is a just and honest man.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:21 PM
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20. I meant according to the polls
here.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:31 PM
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21. I didnÕt know that Clark voted for Nixon
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 09:32 PM by Bushknew
I guess thatÕs why I always hear Dean say "IÕve been a life long Democrat."

I think Dean should stop these indirect attacks and flat out say Clark voted for Nixon
and Reagan.

ItÕs really damming against Clark, I think.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:35 PM
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22. Don't be too hard on him for that.
62% of America voted for Nixon in 1972, and that included a substantial number of Democrats...
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