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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 10:49 AM
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DID BUSH/ROVE HAVE DR KELLY MURDERED?
Dr David Kelly, a British government expert on Iraq who may have been the source that Tony Blair sexed up the Iraqi Weapons charges has been found dead near his home in England. bushrove should now be treated as christian conservatives treat others. THE GOP MUST NOW PROVE THAT IT WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DR KELLY'S DEATH. The moral absolutists so love for others to prove a negative. Therefore, bush must prove he did not have this man murdered because he had information that would prove even more damaging to awol and his little tony. Lets get on with the Vince Foster treatment, Rush.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 11:08 AM
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1. Verrrry curious...
.. that he winds up dead the day after Poodle comes here. Where are the investigations? Where is the British outrage?

Move on chaps... nothing to see here. Bugger off!
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 11:12 AM
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2. I used to scoff at conspiracy theory
It's getting harder and harder.
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 11:15 AM
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3. He may have comitted suicide
Sounds like he was under extreme stress having to deal with the Blair's gov't and the BBC besides. If it's the case I hope he left a long a detailed suicide note.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 11:18 AM
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He may also have been "suicided"
It seems to happen a lot to people that are connected to potential Bush scandals lately.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 11:32 AM
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6. Yeah, like Cliff Baxter at ENRON...
.. offed himself http://www.jerrypippin.com/Cliff%20Baxter.htm . What's the worst he had facing him? A year or two in jail? Nothing to die for.

I'm not much into conspiracy theories, but come on... don't you think things have to be really bad for one to want to end it all? Conspiracy-wise... I'd say it would be a very easy thing for *Bushco* or poodle to orchestrate and pull off. Gets the attention off of them. Just like Baxter. I just think that it's too much of a coincidence that he picked today (or the past few to several days) to kill himself.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:26 PM
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14. Not only that, ol' Cliff used untraceable bullets
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/baxterautopsy.html

That was mighty nice of him to do that, eh?
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 11:18 AM
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4. He may have comitted suicide
Sounds like he was under extreme stress having to deal with the Blair's gov't and the BBC besides. If it's the case I hope he left a long a detailed suicide note.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 12:13 PM
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Plus...
.. why would he go to the woods to become suicided?
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chadm Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 12:13 PM
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8. the term "conspiracy theory"
is nothing more than a liguistic mental block created by those who don't want you to think critically about current events. So stop trying so hard to shut off your critical thinking. Don't apoligize for connecting the dots.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 11:25 AM
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5. why not Blair himself?
His ass is on the line in a big way. He stands to suffer a fall of epic proportions.

The Bush family didn't invent political assassinations. Perfected it, maybe...
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 12:02 PM
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7. I bet they did it through a 3rd party
Mossad, or Jordanian security forces... just wait.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 03:29 PM
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21. Like Wellstone and the Colombians
Of course, since it was an "accident" investigations into videotape showing suspicious persons arriving at the airport that day.

Which is also very convenient. I would love to review those tapes myself, but I'm sure they've already been erased.

NOTE: I am not saying Wellstone was assassinated by the Colombians, though it would fit the Imperial Family Pattern of getting swarthy foreigners to do their dirty work for them. Imperials don't get their hands dirty, you see.
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imhotep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 12:56 PM
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9. I wonder
how many people at DU believe Dr Kelly was not murdered.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 01:15 PM
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10. Ummmm, guys....while he may indeed have been offed by the Bush Gang,
your logic won't work. To wit "THE GOP MUST NOW PROVE THAT IT WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DR KELLY'S DEATH" asks to prove a negative. It can's be done - you do remember freshman logic 101, right? I hope you don't ask me to prove the Easter Bunny doesn't exist, next.....
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:02 PM
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13. Ari Fleischliar said the same thing the other day so why can't we say
it?

"I think the burden is on those people who think he didn't have weapons of mass destruction to tell the world where they are."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/09/international/worldspecial/19CND-INTE.html?hp=&pagewanted=print&position=

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chris_b Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:32 PM
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15. to proove a negative
thats what bush and rumsfeld wanted from sadam, to proofe that there are no wmd in irak!
same "rights" for all people!
(if you think you still got rights;)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 06:58 PM
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24. Hi chris_b!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 01:23 PM
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11. oh stop
We are not freepers.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 01:45 PM
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12. homicide can't be ruled out. maybe not by BUsh....
but certainly someone who wants to be protected in British government or british intelligence may have had him killed and could make it look like suicide.

it is just too strange a circumstance to brush it off. it is a terrible tragedy that the man was pulled through the wringer and is now dead.
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chris_b Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:39 PM
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17. go on
if you dont stop them with their weapons, you won't get rid of them, the "good-intended" will always loose if they dont fight back the same way they are fought!
(excuse my poor english, im german)

chris
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 07:25 PM
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28. He he! Please excuse my English
I am an American!

And I cannot speak that properly!

How many languages do you speak?

Ed
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:37 PM
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16. The more I think about this it just doesn't make sense
for Bush or his pimp Blair to have "offed" the guy for the very reason that it would seem obvious to almost any person with a brain that they did it.

Just as the U.S. media is now loose to question and criticize Bush and Co. I wonder if the "real" powers behind the throne(Rockerfeller, Rothschild, Scaife)who apparently are ready to rid us of the Bush boys could have had a hand in this to put the blame on Blair and by design Bush.

This of course IF it is a murder.
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lisafromstlouie Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:50 PM
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18. Of course Bush is behind it.
It's obvious. Bush is toast.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:56 PM
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19. NO. look at Cheney Rumsfeld Rice secret spy group. Cheney is
the one who has the most to lose
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 03:10 PM
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20. Sooo, some of you think it's too obvious; therefore, it wouldn't be
political murder. Think Mel Carnahan and Paul Wellstone - too obvious, right, because everyone knew the Senate hung in the balance. Think Sen. Heinz who died in a plane crash while investigating Papa Bush---too obvious, right?? I know one thing. If I decided to become a criminal, I will make sure it is damn obvious that no one would believe it. Everything around this crime family seems too obvious.....and it's all way to coincidental. Hell, you wouldn't get crap for odds with the odds makers on all these fucking coincidences. The Bush family did not get where they are by being nice guys with great ideas and talent.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 03:40 PM
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22. You make some excellent points,Starpass. Wasn't
it Hitler who said something to the effect of telling the big lies because they are too unbelievable.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 03:49 PM
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23. Interesting take Starpass
And I agree with all of it.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 07:18 PM
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26. Im sorry, this is just too much.
Man, I need to buy stock in Reynolds Wrap, what with all the tinfoil hattery going on here at DU!
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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 07:11 PM
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25. M16 is perfectly capable of this sort of mission too
that is the Brit CIA.

You'll know for sure if it was natural causes. Did you know it's possible to have a heart attack without having heart trouble ?
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 07:19 PM
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27. Yep. BFEE (Probably) wouldn't take such a chance right now.
Because they MIGHT get caught, and then they lose everything. Such a crime would make Watergate look like beach blanket bingo. (As if it doesn't, already!)
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