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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 05:53 PM
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remember the Stockhlm murder? by an umbrella poison ?
Edited on Fri Jul-18-03 05:58 PM by protect freedom impe
I cant remember the details, BUT remember
some diplomat or public official that died AND
it turned out he killed by a poison or something.

Wasnt it by a poison tipped umbrella ?

anyone remember who?

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reason I bring this up.....a dead UK scientist.
Another dead micro-biologist. Another expert on
biological warfare.

How many deaths of microbiologists have happened since
Bush Coup 2000 ?

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just read about all the deadly biological agents
sent to Iraq by US interests.....

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2002/nf20020920_3025.htm

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As the West Nile Virus spreads nationwide, some congressional leaders are asking whether the mosquito-borne illness could be linked to terrorism or to Iraq's bioweapons program. If so, a more troubling question may be whether Iraq's weapons efforts were unwittingly helped by U.S. scientists.

In a previously unreleased letter obtained by BusinessWeek, the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention admitted that the CDC supplied Iraqi scientists with nearly two dozen viral and bacterial samples in the 1980s, including the plague, West Nile, and dengue fever. The letter, written in 1995 by then-CDC director David Satcher, was in response to a congressional inquiry.

The CDC was abiding by World Health Organization guidelines that encouraged the free exchange of biological samples among medical researchers -- before Congress imposed tighter controls on biological exports in 1995, says Thomas Monath, who headed the CDC lab where the viruses came from during the period in which they were handed over. "It was a very innocent request, which we were obligated to fulfill," recalls Monath. Plus, in the 1980s, Iraq and the U.S. were allies.

more...........
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 05:54 PM
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1. It was ricin, as I recall.
Edited on Fri Jul-18-03 05:55 PM by FlashHarry
On edit: it was a Bulgarian diplomat, assasinated by the KGB--they think.
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 05:57 PM
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2. Georgy was the first name, wasn't it? 60 Minutes had a segment on it.**
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 06:07 PM
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6. Ricin and the umbrella murder....
Ricin and the umbrella murder

Markov was hit by the dart after walking across Waterloo Bridge

LONDON, England -- It was one of the most notorious acts of assassination carried out during the Cold War.

Bulgarian dissident Georgi Markov was killed by poison dart filled with ricin and fired from an umbrella in London in 1978.

Markov, a communist defector working for the BBC World Service, left his office at Bush House in the UK capital on September 11 and walked across Waterloo Bridge to take the train home to Clapham in south-west London.

As he waited at a bus stop moments into his journey home, he felt a sharp jab in his thigh and saw a man picking up an umbrella.

He developed a high temperature and in four days was dead.

A post mortem, conducted with the help of scientists from the UK government's germ warfare centre at Porton Down, established that he had been killed by a tiny pellet containing a 0.2 milligram dose of the poison ricin.

Markov's assassination was detected only because the pellet carrying the poison had not dissolved as expected.

His assassin has never been captured despite close cooperation between British and Bulgarian authorities, including Interpol.

Markov, a playwright and satirist who had broadcast scathing accounts of Communist high life to Bulgaria, was the subject of two failed assassination attempts before he was killed.

And in the years following his death efforts were made to reveal the chain of command which led to the order for his assassination being given.

...more.....
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/07/terror.poison.bulgarian/

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." : George Santayana
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 05:58 PM
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3. yup
the ricin was put in a little pellet, which was loaded into a hypodermic needle which was put inside the tip of an umbrella. When the tip of the umbrella touched his leg, the ricin pellet was put into his skin and he died. They said it was possible he didn't even know anything was wrong due to the surreptitious nature of it.


And I thought that the Stazi were the ones involved in that (not that I know anything--only remember seeing it on History Channel or whatever)
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 06:03 PM
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4. thanks. ....found i newslink about it -
http://www.bonaireentrenous.com/issues/Entrenous_Issue_11_070600.htm

BY JERRY C. LIGON

There is a link between Bonaire and England's famous London Bridge over the Thames River, and it involves everything needed for a thriller of a novel. Espionage, escape from a country known for its tyranny, murder, secret agents sneaking into a foreign country, the use of mysterious toxic material.

There was a Bulgarian diplomat by the name of Georgie Markoff, who escaped the harsh conditions in his home country under communism and sought asylum in the free world. England gave him asylum and he promptly went to work for BBC and began writing scathing articles about life under Bulgarian rule. His ungrateful ex-countrymen caught up with him when a Bulgarian agent sneaked into England and studied his daily habits well enough to plan his murder. The agent caught up with Markoff on London Bridge as he was waiting for a taxi.

Markoff became violently ill and died painfully a few days later, under mysterious circumstances. The autopsy was inconclusive, but after another Bulgarian emigres later died under very similar conditions, this time in Paris, France, forensic technicians studied these two cases with diligence. It was discovered that both men had a small raised welt on one leg. Examination revealed the small spot to contain a tiny hollow sphere with almost microscopic pores all over the surface. These tiny spheres had been injected into their victims with the hollowed out tip of an umbrella and the toxin contained within was non other than ricin. This occurred in 1978.

After the USSR collapsed in 1991, a very cooperative KGB agent revealed that Russia had been using the toxin ricin since the late 50's and had a secret "death lab"off of a downtown street in Moscow, from which chemists and government agents had been working to perfect the "perfect"poison. They discovered the lethal dose by using prisoners who were experimented on and were watched through one-way glass windows to witness the degree of pain associated with death. It was reported that "hundreds"of prisoners were sacrificed during almost 50 years of experimentation. They knew that in its pure form, one drop of ricin is enough to kill 250 people. It was discovered also that the best way to administer the toxin to cause an unsuspicious death was when the body was allowed to absorb the toxin over a period of time, thus the hollow sphere injected into the muscle of the two victims.

more.........
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 06:06 PM
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5. Ricin poisoning is progressive...
Edited on Fri Jul-18-03 06:09 PM by punpirate
... it takes hours to days for it to be lethal. It is a blood agent and works from a small site into the blood stream. There are also many telltale signs at the point of entry into the body to indicate its use.

But, as I recall, it was a lower-level Bulgarian official who had reportedly double-crossed some of his friends in government, and was killed by a ricin-filled metal pellet injected by a made-for-the-purpose umbrella, yes.

But, for the moment, Kelly was drawn into a major, national scandal. There's just no telling what might have happened. In England, walking out into a heavy rain without raincoat or umbrella is sort of the definition of derangement. Everyone is going to just have to wait for the autopsy results....

On edit, thanks, it was a Bulgarian.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 06:08 PM
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7. "How many deaths of microbiologists.....
have happened since Bush Coup 2000 ?"

I believe the count is up to 14 or 15 now...could be even higher...but I know at least 14.
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 06:19 PM
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8. Mysterious Deaths of Microbiologists (link)
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