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BlueHeron Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:34 PM
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Well, My Kids are at my Christian School's Harvest Festival, and Happy!
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 09:52 PM by BlueHeron
I don't want them going around the neighborhood. I'm new here, and I don't know anyone here. I put them in the Christian School so they wouldn't have to get "razor blades in apples" and all that other stuff.

I don't like Halloween. It's bad. I don't want my kids to look at bad stuff in the world, more than they see on the "cables" with this Evil War and Evil Shrub and the rest of them that have "taken over."

I want my kids to look at the "good stuff" out there. If they can go to their school and have fun and games and dress up as funny characters, I think it's better than when I went out as Kruger and tried to "scare" people.

I think we need a new way of looking at holidays. The "old way" doesn't work anymore. We don't want our kids rotting their teeth with all that candy. And, there's the "greed" thing. Why should I have to deal with my kids getting tooth decay because of all that candy. Why should I deal with the "safety" thing. I don't know my neighbors. I just moved here. Why should I go to these houses?

Some here, think these "Havest Festivals" are bad. I think they are bad if they make you do religious stuff. My kids school doesn't do that. And, Ill make damned sure they DON'T make this Religious in the future.

So, why shouldn't we looke at a "new way" of dealing with the commercialism of Halloween instead of the old way.

I can't afford to keep my kids teeth fixed if they get cavities from that candy. Why shouldn't I be worried about their safety and their teeth. Shrub isn't going to fix my kids teeth or mine if I eat too much candy. And, I don't want my kids hurt by people I don't know in this new place. In their school I know all the parents and kids. They are safe there and they can have some fun with games and costumes. They don't need to be out there with that other stuff.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:58 PM
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1. Do you
have a therapist? You seem extremely up-tight. Take a chill. Fear of everything is what the facists want you to experience. It's gonna be OK, trust me on this one. However, do what you must. Take care of those kids!
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:01 PM
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2. Sounds like a good night for a movie
Have you seen "Bowling for Colombine"?



Happy Halloween !
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:01 PM
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3. Halloween bad?
How do you figure?

Btw, there has never been an incident of Halloween treat tampering, at least according to the guy on NPR who researched it back to 1953, and he could'nt find a single record of any such event happening.
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:08 PM
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6. As a cat lover I bet there were more instances of CAT ABUSE over Halloween
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 10:15 PM by Valerie5555
and good on the SPCAs and Humane Societies for not letting anyone even think of adopting a BLACK CAT until HALLOWEEN IS OVER.

On edit I thought everyone should go to a pre Halloween CAT SHOW if their local cat club was willing and inclined to hold one at that time if only to teach or instruct themselves as well as their kids,in awe and respect for our fine feline friends, and the different breeds and varieties of cats that there are out there. Meow. Purr.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:06 PM
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4. Guess what?
You are free to celebrate ANY holiday as you see fit. Those are your children and if you prefer to send them to a Harvest Festival, do it. There would be a problem if you tried to tell everyone else who enjoys Trick or Treating that they too should stop and do a Harvest Party because YOU think it's a better way to celebrate Halloween. To each his own. Just don't try to make others do it your way because you think it's better. We get enough of that crap from the RWers.

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BlueHeron Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:11 PM
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9. No, I don't think that other kids shouldn't go out on Halloween. But, I
saw a post here where people were criticizing it. Showing some school with Jesus on a Cross.

I wouldn't send my kids to someplace like that. I just wanted you who think it's got to be "Trick or Treat" at the door or else to understand that some of us are okay with the schools who have "harvest festivals." Even the religious ones, but I don't go for cutting out the costumes and fun for Halloween.

I'm not a Freeper. I have lurked here. I'm not one of those Scum. But, not every Dem is "lockstep" either.

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:06 PM
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5. Please don't feed
the Freepers. Just let their threads die.
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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:08 PM
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7. ummm
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 10:10 PM by jbm
nevermind...edited cause I thought maybe the post was parody but I reread it and now I'm not sure..
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:12 PM
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11. That was my first impression too however...
...I'm not so sure anymore.

Oh well. It's all for Hell night, or some other bizzaro psuedo Christian/misunderstood Pagan mumbo jumbo...
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:08 PM
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8. Do you know that there was only a single incident of a razor blade
in candy or apples? It was media hyper-hype! Keep Americans afraid at all times and they will let us bomb third world countries.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:11 PM
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10. Yes. urban myth for the weak
minded. The Bushies. They'll believe anything. One small step from razor blades to WMDs. If they only had a brain.
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BlueHeron Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:15 PM
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12. No, not the razor blades. Using that as example of what everyone says.
I've lived other places and people are really kind, and no one would put anything bad in candy. But, that's what people say, and that's why they want something different. Other people are just tired of the Hype. I'm more tired of hype. I don't want my kids scared.

I've voted Democrat all my life. I always went out for Halloween and had a good time. But, it's different now.

I don't trust people like when I was a kid. Why do my kids need sacks of candy.

They just want to dress up and have a good time. They can do that at their school.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:44 PM
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13. NO, IT'S NOT DIFFERENT NOW
This shit has been going on since the 1st written word! Our time now is much easier (if any different) than past history. As long as we use terms that suggest that the "good ol days" were less problematic than now, we are declaring ourselves as cry-babies that are too weak to cope with the hand that life has dealt us...... Respect yourself girl! You have the power.
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celestia671 Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:46 PM
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14. To each his own
that's what I say. People observe Halloween in many different ways. When I was younger, my school had a Harvest Festival. I also went trick or treating and to haunted houses. Tonight, I took my kids t or t to a few houses and they had a great time!
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 08:48 PM
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19. No you did not.
Vote "democrat" all your life. If you did, you'd have voted DemocratIC. Get it? There's an IC on the end. Buh bye.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:47 PM
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15. I was shaving this morning...
..and found a damn apple in my razor! Now whazzup with that????
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:28 PM
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16. It is your responcibility to raise you kids as you see fit
But please don't try to take the fun of Holloween from the rest of us.

Holloween represents many things to many people. To me it represents the end of summer season, harvest and the begining of winter season. If I were living in the 1300's or something it would be like marking on a calendar the time of the year and would remind me of what things I needed to do to prepare for the coming winter season. Also a time to give thanks to the gods for the past summer season and the bounty it gave.

Those are good things.

If you need to see something dark and evil in Holloween I feel bad for you.
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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 11:51 PM
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17. Halloween is not "bad".
I'm sure you really know that, and are just kind of venting here. Although no one can say for certain just where the holiday originated, we do know that the modern version of it is Christian. So any Christian school or church or group or whatever that demonizes Halloween is simply saying that they can't stomach their own festivals.

I've personally never encountered a single instance of violence or vandalism during Halloween.

Still, you make a valid point: It's better to go with a known safe than an unknown whatever. I think I would make the same decision you did, were I in your position. (My kids are all grown now, so it's not something I have to think about.) Still, I would prefer it if you didn't denigrate the holiday for others by labeling it "bad". Ironically, that's precisely what the "Harvest Festival" is designed to get you to think. . . .
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 08:34 PM
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18. I had only 1/4 the kids "trick or treating" this year as last year and
before. But, here in NC starting only 2 years ago our "fundie" and other churches have started to hold these "Harvest Festivals," where the kids go instead of going "door to door."

Our NC Newspaper did a big article about it. Lots of families think candy and the greed about it is too much.

They want to pull back. I don't know. I have mixed feelings about it. Depends on the church and what they are doing to replace "door to door" Halloween activities.

I would draw the line with a church who does "Passion Plays" or something like my newspaper was pointing out.

But, OTOH, there's enough scariness watching just CNN today, that I wonder if it isn't too much overload on our smaller kids to be scared with scarey costumes and "neighbors they don't know" which is the way it is today in most of Suburban America.'

Maybe we really DO need to rethink how Halloween is celebrated. Sad.....for me..because I LOVE HALLOWEEN!
The scarier the better. But, I didn't grow up in the world we all live in today. It was a more innocent time.

These times are NOT INNOCENT......maybe we need to "pull back?"
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 09:57 PM
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20. "These times are NOT INNOCENT"
Isn't that all the more reason to not try to oversimplify the world of a child? Christ on a crutch - kids learn about their world through exactly these kinds of things. What kind of kids are we supposed to be raising in this sort of happy-dippy escapist environment?

Do what you want with your own kids, but I feel genuinely sorry for children for whom Halloween goblins, costumes and jack-o-lanterns have been replaced with a "Harvest Festival" and a trip to church.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 10:31 PM
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21. Oh Good Grief! I agree, but I think the times have changed, and some
Edited on Sat Nov-01-03 10:32 PM by KoKo01
folks have kids with nightmares because of that damned "Squatter" in the White House! If one is worried about CNN showing Torture Tapes and Bush carrying on about Kill! Kill! Kill!


I'm not advocating it because I, personlly, LOVE HALLOWEEN! I'm not like the person who posted this.....but I understand that some parents are feeling concerned, that's all......
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