Liberals Are Evil

[absolutezero]

On Edit; changed the title

Found this with google, it's kinda old

According to American Daily

"Now this might seem an extreme statement to make. After all, simply holding to a different set of beliefs than their political opposites certainly does not make Liberals evil does it? No, disagreeing with Conservative or traditional ideals does not make Liberals evil at all. But make no mistake, most positions taken by these folks, many of them well meaning and feeling people, are evil or supportive of evil.

A close examination of the political ideologies of the Left reveals a disturbing pattern of destructiveness to morality, tradition, and the state of mankind itself. Of course no card-carrying member of the far left will ever agree with my position but the evidence, when looked upon, is crystal clear and damning to the ideals of Liberalism. " <snip>

http://www.americandaily.com/item/912

Basically, we're all evil because we kill babies..I've never killed a baby in my life and I really wouldn't ever want to, however the bible does say that "life comes with first breath", I just can't remeber the verse.

we like Saddam...I never said I liked him, I just though that not only were whistleass's reasons for war were total bull, but now they can't even get the story straight, and it's a quagmire that may be my generation's vietnam, something I'm not too happy about

and the "vastly inferior" social healthcare system...giving everyone the same medical care no matter their income? How unAmerican is that? If god wanted the poor to get healthcare he would have made them rich, so by extention god hates the poor....</sarcasm>

any thoughts on this? maybe some nice "soundbitey" responses that these dimwits might understand

[PurityOfEssence]

1. Reactionaries hate people who can live with grey areas and change

The life of the extreme conservative is one of trying to stop the clock, close the door and decoupage everything into a tidy little predictability in which they prevail and their views are above reproach.

[Guaranteed]

17. And "when in doubt, kill it." nt

[jbm]

2. truth is...

the difference between conservatives and liberals originates from a few basic assumptions that have to do with the nature of man and definitions of virtue. At some point early on liberals assume that people are basically good and that each individual has it within themselves to choose to lead a virtuous life. Conservatives assume that people are inherently bad,and that society must maintain strict constructs to keep them in line. They create morality to impose goodness,and religion to impose spirituality. Then they believe that virtue is acheived when people obey the constructs they've created(in lieu of the real thing) and honor those things that are superior to themselves(be they God,Country,or rich guys).

Liberals are less concerned with the constructs because they believe the real thing exists in most people naturally. Things like abortion become a rights issue to many of us,because we assume that people will make the choices that are right more often then not,and that when we don't understand their choice,it could be because we don't know the circumstances. It boils down to a belief in human nature. if that's true,I find it hard to believe we're 'evil'.:)

[pllib]

4. between different flavors of christians, too....

I have recently come to an understanding (I am Catholic) through reading and some conversations with fundamentalist friends why they are so anti-government. One premise of Catholic theology is that humans, created in God's image, are good (which is one of the reasons why I oppose abortion). We have free will, and can choose evil, but our primary determination is to do good. Since people are good, the relationships that flow from human interaction, including community, society, and government are also good. Indeed, these extensions of human realtionships must play an important role in promoting justice.

Many fundamentalists, as extremist heirs of the protestant tradition (which places a greater emphasis on human depravity), look at people (and the "world") as essentially evil. Thus, society, government, etc., as extensions of people, are also seen as "evil" and ineffective as forces for good. This has helped me understand how a fundamentalist Christian can be "pro-life," but support social policies (welfare reform, decreased spending on safety net programs, etc.) that are likely to increase the rates of abortion among poor women, who may be unable to support a child without these government programs. (It is interesting that abortion rates are dropping, except among women of low socio-economic status - perhaps they have gotten the message, inherent in welfare reform as currently enacted, that society does not value them or their children).

[Kanary]

6. not to mention....

" This has helped me understand how a fundamentalist Christian can be "pro-life," but support social policies (welfare reform, decreased spending on safety net programs, etc.) that are likely to increase the rates of abortion among poor women, who may be unable to support a child without these government programs."

ummm, not to mention, the people who die as *adults* because of the loss of the "safety net" programs...? Or, is it only the unborn whose loss is mourned?

Kanary!

[jbm]

7. I was never aware of the differences in theology ,pllib..

thanks for the post and welcome to DU! :)

[lynndew2]

8. Wow, you make conseratives all-powerful

They create morality to impose goodness,and religion to impose spirituality.

Conservatives created religion? And Goodness!!! Way too funny...LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[jbm]

9. well..not exactly..

I'm saying goodness and spirituality are the real thing..and that morality and religion are man made and poor imitations.

[lynndew2]

12. agree with you to some extent but,

"I'm saying goodness and spirituality are the real thing..and that morality and religion are man made and poor imitations."


I would argue that morality and goodness run hand in hand. I believe that there is a limit on some things and after a certain time that limit is reached certain things are wrong.

Spirituality and Religion are things totally seperate. They are choices not Humanity. Under your description. Saddamm would be a good human being. Zieg Hail, JMB

[rman]

15. and then there are those who abandon morality, since man is bad anyway

they conclude that trying to be good is a disadvantage in the struggle for resources that life is.

I mean, looking at all the corruption in corporate affairs and the politics that cater to those. These typically are not lefties, nor is it a demonstration of upholding high moral standards.

And then there are the neo-conservatives who follow the thinking of so-called political philisophers like Leo Strauss and Machiavelli who say things like:

"Those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right, the right of the superior to rule over the inferior".

*those who realize there is no morality*

[Skittles]

3. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

how many babies have Bush I and Bush II killed? Thousands, I bet.

[many a good man]

5. Synonyms for Liberal

PROTECTION OF CIVIL LIBERTIES is evil.
BROAD-MINDEDNESS is evil.
TOLERANCE is evil.
CREATING A MORE EQUITABLE SOCIETY is evil.
AMELIORATING SOCIAL CONDITIONS is evil.
OPPOSING THE INITIATION OF FORCE is evil.
FAVORING PERSONAL FREEDOM is evil.
GENEROUS is evil.
BOUNTIFUL is evil.
MUNIFICENT is evil.
PROGRESS is evil.
REFORM is evil.

Evil can be defined as something which is morally objectionable.

I question their morals.

[Cat Atomic]

10. I'm not much for analyis, but I'd sum it up very simply.

For decades, the American population has been motivated through fear. It's made the populace sort of paranoid in some respects, as we saw with Reagan's invasion of Grenada in the 80's. People here actually believed that Grenada was a threat to them.

Anyway, I think articles like this one are just more of the same crap from the fear mongering crap machine. "Liberals are evil, they'll destroy the country".

It's just more of the same old divide and conquer tactics, more motivation through fear. I don't pretend to know what the psychological roots of fundamentalism are, but I recognize fear when I see it- and Americans are afraid.

[DivinBreuvage]

11. Yep... a psychological study proved it

I know many DU'ers have seen this before. The conservative mindset is formed in fright. At the core of their being they are afraid.

Knowing this, it becomes much easier to account for the greed, intolerance, hatred, and mental rigidity (e.g. religious fundamentalism or the "you're with us or against us" school) so often exhibited by the nastier sort of conservative.

An excerpt from a press release on the study (UC Berkeley):

"Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:

* Fear and aggression
* Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
* Uncertainty avoidance
* Need for cognitive closure
* Terror management"

Link! http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml

Françoise

[BloodyWilliam]

13. Gasp! Destruction of morality and tradition?

Such horrible horrible acts only led to things like ending slavery, giving women and blacks the right to vote, letting non-Christians live in relative harmony with the government...

[JackDragna]

14. This is projecting conservatism's weakneess upon its opponent.

Liberalism has brought the U.S. an end to racial segregation, women's suffrage, decent wages for workers, an end to unsafe work environments and child labor, social programs involving everything from welfare, highways and rural electrification, a separation of church and state, a push for the preservation of the environment and several other benefits.

Liberalism is the force of positive social change. Anyone who seeks to fight for humanity in the face of public opinion embraces liberal values. Every right, every measure of political and social equality we enjoy has been fought for by liberals. Did conservatives march with King? No. They chastised him for upsetting the social order and accused him of being a Communist saboteur. Did conservatives help Margaret Sanger get reproductive rights for women? No. Conservatives wanted her and other women to reproduce whenever their man told them to and to shut up. Did conservatives champion science during the Scopes Monkey Trial? No. They supported the teaching of religion as an explanation for how the world works.

Oppression. Intolerance. Greed. Fanaticism. Anyone who fights them is a liberal: to denigrate liberalism is to denigrate the very idea that society should be fair and just. If being a liberal makes me evil, then I hope I burn in the hottest corner of hell, for I love what I am and shall not change.

[camero]

16. God loves the poor

Or else he wouldn't have made quite so many of us.

[Guaranteed]

18. Conservatives have absolutely no sense

of ethics, nor do they have an understanding of what freedom means, what makes the United States a great country, or what a "good person" is. The ridiculous "morals" they tout are nothing but simple-mindedness and a lack of real values.

Of course I'm making a rather general statement about conservatives, but I've found that those who harp the most on morality are also those who are least likely to actually follow it.

[PapaClay]

19. Um...Well...

Yes, actually. I am.

But my duties are mostly ceremonial these days.

:evilgrin: