LittleApple81
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:26 AM
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Koppel to Powell (Nightline): The administration flat-ass wrong on Iraq? |
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Edited on Sat Nov-01-03 12:59 AM by LittleApple81
about some of the lies as misstatements. Koppel was pretty good.
Edited to say ABC and change the heading; needs to attract the west coasters attention, I guess.
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:27 AM
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1. I missed it . Give examples, please. |
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:28 AM
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that he actually challenged some of Powell's talking points?
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:28 AM
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...or does your local PBS station also air Nightline?
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:37 AM
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5. My mistake. Should be in bed by now, I guess! |
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I loved the ending. Koppel concluded the program by mentioning that Schwartzeneger in California had promised to deal with the groping accusations after he got elected and now says that it is no longer relevant. Koppel said that Bush's government is taking the same approach to all the wrong statements about Iraq. He called it the Schwartzenegerization of government policy. This last comment does not appear here but there is a summary of Powells statement here: http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20031031_368.html
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:36 AM
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4. Is tonight's Nightline worthy of a "LeftCoast Alert?" |
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:37 AM
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6. Koppel's exact words to Powell: "So, you were Flat-Ass Wrong?" |
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Edited on Sat Nov-01-03 01:02 AM by VolcanoJen
It was a monumental moment, I'm telling you. My jaw dropped to the floor as Koppel said that, and then continued with something like "By your smile, I can tell you didn't expect me to come at you with that." Powell replied, a little nervously and put-off, with something like "The Secretary of State doesn't respond with such, profanity."
I wish I could remember exactly what Powell said, and I'm sure a transcript will be available soon. What blew me off the couch, though, was Koppel saying, "So, you were Flat-Ass wrong?"
Koppel's exit editorial was spot-on too, highlighting four ways in which the Administration essentially was "Flat-Ass Wrong:"
1. They were wrong about the imminent threat of WMD's;
2. They were wrong that Iraqis would "welcome us with open arms;" that it would be a "cakewalk;"
3. They were wrong when they said the reconstruction would be paid for with Iraqi oil revenues;
4. That the Iraq War would lead to resolution in the "Roadmap to Peace" between Israel and Palestine.
It was mindblowing, and I'm so glad I got home just in time to tune in.
- Jennifer
on edit: typos
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:43 AM
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7. WOW! ... I gotta see THAT transcript. -- LEFTCOAST ALERT |
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:52 AM
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8. Flat ass wrong? Koppel was being kind. |
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I would've said bald faced lied!
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:00 AM
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10. A journalist standing up to Powell! |
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I'll have to get a copy of the show, or at least a transcipt.
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:13 AM
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12. Blew me away, too. Powell could only change subjects as slick as Willie. |
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I think he said something like the sec of state is not able to speak so 'graphically' as Koppel had put it.
He was also splitting intel hairs with chilling echoes, this time over 'is saddam hoozat in charge or whatever' v. NYT article today.
Fer sure worth a west coast look.
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:30 AM
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16. I think the word Powell used was "graphically" |
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I've been going nuts trying to remember if he referred to Koppel's comments as "vulgarity" or "profanity." I think "graphically" was the word; thanks, TacticalPeak!
I do hope West Coasters tune in and give us their thoughts! It was one firecracker of a Nightline.
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:35 AM
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Everyone at DU should buy the latest Dixie Chicks CD as a sign of support to the band, but also as statement to the right wing. I wish a million of their CDs would sell in one weekend.
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Sat Nov-01-03 02:26 AM
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23. The Dixie Chicks are the Beatles of country, TexasEditor. |
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My opinion, of course.
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Sat Nov-01-03 12:55 AM
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9. What? Koppel said THAT?!! |
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More proof of the liberal media! How dare he say such a vile thing towards the Great Powell. BOYCOTT ABC!
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:00 AM
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11. Kickin' for the West Coasters, especially those with Tivo or the like |
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It would be fantastic if any of the West Coasters could transcribe the Koppel/Powell exchange. It's worth it, I promise!!!!
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:14 AM
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:56 AM
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20. ABC should have given the tape to the RNC for editing prior to showing |
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Is this what's going into Patriot Act II?
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Sat Nov-01-03 02:09 AM
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21. Maybe Nightline will air with a *crawl* on the West Coast |
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...Ted Koppel is a member of the elite limousine liberal media, and his comments are worthless and insignificant... GDP Soars To New Record... Get back to work, and don't even think about asking for the Friday after Thanksgiving off this year... Ted Koppel wears a dress... Coulter: Iraq War progressing "Magnificently"... KOBE KOBE KOBE KOBE KOBE... If you don't re-use your hotel bathroom towels, the pandas pictured on the housekeeping literature will die... Powell: Ted Koppel wishes Saddam Hussein was still in power... Ted Koppel is a member of the elite limousine liberal media, and his comments are worthless and insignificant...
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Sat Nov-01-03 02:20 AM
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22. When Ed Gillespie (RNC) is on the air, there oughtta be a *crawl*... |
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Sat Nov-01-03 02:49 AM
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Sat Nov-01-03 03:05 AM
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25. Koppel called Ashcroft's Patriotic Act |
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a "boneheaded" idea a few months ago. I watched this guy turn against the Bush empire over the last 6 months as he realizes the whole war was a big f-ing lie.
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Sat Nov-01-03 03:59 AM
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was Ted did not change the tone or tenor of his voice when he said, So, you were flat-ass wrong.
Powell did seem a little taken aback when he responded w/, A Secretary of State is not permitted to speak in graphic terms as you are.
Ted's closing comments keep getting better and better.
Just as arnold's groping problems are no longer relevant, after he's in, so are all of the reasons we invaded Iraq.
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Sat Nov-01-03 04:28 AM
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27. I liked his closing statement where |
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he got a dig in at not only the chimp administration but arnie the groper and his womanizing....TERRIFIC! :thumbsup: :bounce:
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