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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:49 AM
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Poll question: Why do you hate Bush?
This is the hot issue on CNN today, maybe they can visit here to get to the bottom of the question.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:50 AM
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1. All of the above. n/t
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:51 AM
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2. Because he's there.
nt
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:53 AM
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3. I don't hate him. Hate is what they do.
I wish him well. I just prefer that he not stay in government positions where his stupidity, ignorance, and corruption harms my country and the world I live in.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:05 PM
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9. I wish I were as nice as you...
but I honestly hate him very much for all the reasons stated above, most especially, because he is stealing from future generations (yes, I'm getting up there in years).
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:39 PM
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28. I didn't hate anyone until George Bush came along
And now there are a bunch of people I hate, despise, loathe, and wish no good thing for. (I don't wish them physical harm, but I wouldn't feel any pity or empathy for them either. AFAIC, eternity isn't nearly long enough for the lot of them to burn in hell.)

And to a certain extent, that's a whole 'nother reason I hate him: for teaching me and giving me so many reasons to hate.

Eloriel
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:55 AM
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4. All of the above
I do hate him and his cabinet. I try to be a kind, fair, forgiving person in my life. But I think in times of extreme evil, hate is called for.
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:23 PM
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18. Yep.
I agree. He and his handlers are deserving of our hatred.
Likewise I'm normally a very kind, fair person.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:58 AM
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5. Because it is every Murkin's Patriotic Duty to hate the President
I didn't catch onto this during the Clinton era. I guess I was just misguided. But after about a hundred thousand Internet posts and video offers and talk shows from triple-digit IQs and Biblical proof from Fundy preachers, it dawned on me that Presidents are Evil. They must be opposed at every turn or they will sell us out to the UN by way of special reflectors on road signs at night.

I admit my error. I am sorry that I did not hate Bill Clinton the way I was supposed to. I plan to atone for this by hating George W. Bush three times as much as I should.

:loveya:
dbt
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:59 AM
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6. I don't
I dislike him, but hate isn't something that my nature can abide for long. It's a destructive emotion.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:00 PM
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7. Because he has robbed my children of being able to go to bed
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 12:38 PM by MrsGrumpy
at night and sleep knowing they are safe from harm. Because he has robbed my husband and I of any security we may have had for our financial future. Because he has robbed my country of the good name we once had, and has made us a laughing stock around the world. That is just where it begins for me.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:01 PM
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8. the poll totally forgets to mention the WAR in Iraq and Afganistan

belongs on a different board, that's for certain...

another effort to divert attention from the REAL issues of the day...the WAR....
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:05 PM
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10. Respectfully disagree...
another effort to divert attention from the REAL issues of the day...the WAR....

The war is a symptom. A really noticeable and godawful symptom, but a symptom.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:25 PM
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19. 'The war is a symptom'?....NO, it is a MAJOR problem...OUR troops
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 12:30 PM by amen1234
are being killed every single day...why not bring up the WAR in this 'poll'....why divert attention from the WAR, especially on a day when more than 20 of OUR soldiers were KILLED...

it's just one of those diversions from the MAIN issue....the WAR...
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:01 PM
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36. Whoa!
The war is certainly a major problem and the senseless death of anyone is a serious tragedy and horror. I wouldn't ever minimize that.

At the same time, the U.S. apparently feels that it can ignore the rest of the world and do whatever it damn well pleases. Why is that? Because we have the most powerful weapons? Because G-d likes us best? Because we refuse to live modestly? Because we are "the new Zion" and "the city on a hill"?

I think the war is a symptom of some really screwed up thinking that's been around for a long time, and I think we'd best get over it before it's too late and before events force us to get over it real fast.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:07 PM
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39. 'war is certainly a major problem'...why wasn't WAR in the poll?
the WAR wasn't mentioned in the poll...and that's a FACT....

lots of other things were mentioned in the poll, but the WAR was deliberatly left off (sHHHHH...don't mention the WAR...must keep that minimized, and focus on other things, like this spinning poll)....
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:09 PM
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13. Your attack is needless senseless.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 12:11 PM by eyeontheprize
Where it comes from is beyond me. What is the problem? Why would you even say such a thing? Are you trying to start some sort of argument?

Please explain why you would make such a mean attack on such an innocent post?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:33 PM
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24. ...'such an innocent post'? IMO, the poll is a lot of spin...misses
the BIG bush* issue: the WARs (war in Iraq, war in Afganistan, war on terror, perpetual war)...

this poll diverts attention from the war, implies that there is some other 'innocent' reasons involved in bush* WARs...


:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:55 PM
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33. Yes it is very clear that spotbird loves Bush and is trying to protect
him with this clever diversion. Imagine saying that “everything Bush touches turns to shit” and a way to display that secret adoration. Man it does take a keen eye to catch it, wow; I would have missed it all together. (sarcasm off)
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:00 PM
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35. because the poll failed to ask about WAR, which is spinning a
very serious issue for bush*....and that's a FACT....attacks are very different than pointing out spin and FACTS....

since you are so new here...it might take you a while to recognize the difference between 'attacks' and pointing out the FACTS...in this case, the poll failed to mention the WAR (that is a FACT)...it is not an attack to point that out...it reveals spinning, and such revealations are quite common on DU....

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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:51 PM
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48. I’m new to this board
but I wasn’t born yesterday, I can tell the day of the week.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:14 PM
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15. That is covered in "everything he touches turns to shit"
You seem really off base with your attack.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:29 PM
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21. 'off base' to mention the WAR?....OUR troops were KILLED today
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 12:30 PM by amen1234
why is anyone trying not to mention that? It is reality, not any kind of an attack...it is simply stopping the spinning which is denying the WAR, and today's killings of OUR troops...

WAR is bush* failure...it is IMPORTANT...it needs to be brought up everywhere...the WAR should not be shoved away under 'rose bush' spins like this.....

to bring up the WAR is not an attack, it is reality...the WAR is REAL...and the spin is sickening...
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:47 PM
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31. Mentioning the war is fine.
Attacking for no reason is off base.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:54 PM
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32. well, the WAR wasn't mentioned in the poll....so that's a fact...
not an 'attack', just pointing out the spin....

there is plenty of reason to point out spin, as I did here....

I agree that 'attacking for no reason is off base', but in this case, there is LOTS OF GOOD REASONS to point out the spin...AND bringing up the FACTS can hardly be called 'attacking'...it's only called 'attacking' in other places, but not on DU....
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:59 PM
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34. Nonsense
Where you are coming from with this attack is beyond me, but it isn’t from the original post.

I missed the part where the war is supposed to be a good thing.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:03 PM
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37. nonsense? to point out that the WAR wasn't in the poll ?? hardly
it is simply the TRUTH that the poll failed to bring up the WAR...a really big failure on bush* part....
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:13 PM
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40. Wonder if...
... Bush had not started a war in Iraq. Would you like him then?

Didn't think so.

Maybe we just have to agree to disagree here. I was in DC last weekend also, although I didn't get over to meet with the DU group. (My husband got lost and wouldn't ask for directions... but don't let on that I said that!)

But really, since when does this country have a right to install and depose rulers of other nations, depending on what works for us? That's the arrogance, and that's what makes me most unhappy with the current administration. I just don't "get" why so many people seem to assume that the U.S. has the "right."

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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:29 PM
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43. Nonsense.
The poll didn't bring up the economy either. Your attack looks more personal than substantive.

You are wrong. There is no war support anywhere in there.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:30 PM
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:07 PM
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11. I don't hate him
but the quality I dislike the most is that he has no curiosity. He is not interested in the whys of the world. I guess I want my leaders to be more intellectual.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:08 PM
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12. Heck, what's not to hate?
A more interesting question would be to have DUers wrack their brains trying to think about ANYTHING good about the boy-king.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:36 PM
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45. What questions would you poll in that poll?
How about this:

What do you like best about the Chimp-in Chief?

1- His personal hygiene seems adequate.
2- His shoes look like they fit.
3- All of the above.
4- None of the above.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:35 PM
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52. The things I like about George W. Bush:
1. He looks a lot like Alfred E. Newman, and you gotta admit that's a plus in anyone's book.
2. I love guys with who wear band-aids on their faces.
3. Hey, I like pretzels too! We have something in common!
4. He isn't ACTUALLY the devil.
5. He gives succour to those guys in high school who couldn't read, write, or speak publicly and thought nothing would ever become of themselves because of it.
6. Me like funny man ha ha ha
7. He can steal an election like a skilled baseball player can steal bases; I admire that.
8. He gives new life to the smirk as a legitimate facial expression at a time when Bruce Willis is losing popularity.
9. Jeez, this is really hard!
10. He isn't ACTUALLY Hitler.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:44 PM
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53. About number 4.....
Are you really sure or are you an atheist? Or you just including it so that people have a choice? LOL
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:13 PM
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14. Ahh...
a carebear salute for the 2 voters in the last column.

Those 'rose-colored' permanent contacts must be nice...
'Forgive him Lord, for he knows not what he has done'

The other choices don't really cover the depth of evil this man is/has done...
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:22 PM
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16. Hate implies emotional irrationality; Why hate when there are...
...so many perfectly rational reasons to revile him?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:51 PM
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56. Yes, I can say quite rationally
that the world would be a better place without him and his cronies.

They all need to be on death row. Where they can't hurt anyone else.

They should be brought up on about 20,000 charges of wrongful death.

15 just today.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:23 PM
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17. here's a good essay:
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:26 PM
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20. votes for the last item?
Okay, good to know we aren't alone on the board this morning.

LOL
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:31 PM
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22. This poll is beside the point
Look, I'll be the last one to defend Dubya. But the problem in our country isn't him. The problem isn't even the Republican party, although, God knows, they're not helping the situation.
The problem is that the military-industrial complex has taken control of the United States of America. Whether the President is a Democrat or Republican doesn't matter. Every president since Kennedy was more or less under the thumb of a shadow power that has its summer capital in the Pentagon and its winter capital in the boardrooms of major corporations. This power prefers to have a Republican in power because Republicans are more pliable to their objectives and more comfortable with seizing and wielding power both domestically and abroad. Democrats, however, can be manipulated and controlled to serve their purposes to an acceptable degree.
Hating Bush, or hating right wing buffoons like Coulter, is understandable but a waste of energy. Loving democracy, and educating yourself about who really holds power in this country and what their goals are, is more important.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:40 PM
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47. Good point, really
but this is an exercise in venting as much as anything.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:32 PM
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23. Because he is a greedy, vile, fool!
He pledges to defend our freedoms as he takes them away, he pledges to liberate the Iraqi people as he bombs them back to the Stone Age, he pledges to improve security as he strips in from us.

All of the above, in essence.
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:34 PM
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25. How do I hate Bush - let me count the ways
All of the above.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:34 PM
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26. all of the above...
he needs to go...we need to focus on the candidate that makes it through the primaries...whoever that may be...I hoping on Dean...and then push ahead full steam to get BushCo Inc. out of office...
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:38 PM
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27. I really really really really really really really ..
really really really really don't like him .. for all of the
above and more ...
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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:40 PM
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29. because he IS
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grannyb Donating Member (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 12:41 PM
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30. How do I hate he, let me count the ways
all of the above for sure
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:06 PM
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38. Hatred misses the point.
Would you hate the Verizon Wireless man? Like Bush, he's just saying what his handlers pay him to say. Hating Bush doesn't do anything to the PNAC crowd and their ilk. Our collective enemy is is much bigger and more sophisticated than the sociopathic clown in the White House.

For the sake of our great experiment in government by consent of the governed, the entire structure of emergent fascism deserves our most energetic opposition. The semiliterate front man is just that: a front man.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:14 PM
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41. My Mom gets apoplectic just trying to say *'s name.
I usually don't waste any energy hating anyone. Unfortunately, I have allowed myself to sink a level of hate I never thought I could achieve. All of the above and then some!

Jazzgirl :spank:
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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:23 PM
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42. Hatred and the Bush Family Evil Empire
are synonymous.

Nixon once said of Barbara Bush, 'She really knows how to hate'.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 01:37 PM
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46. What about other?
I want to tack on that he hates Wicca and everything it stands for along with all of those who practice it. Tack that on and I would vote all of the above.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:01 PM
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49. I hate him for his freedom ;)
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:12 PM
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50. Normally true hatred is against my religion
But I think any self-respecting Buddhist would have to make an exception for Smirky. The man and his allies embody pure evil.
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The Commie Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:16 PM
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51. ALL NEO-CONS MUST DIE...
...seriously, the world would be a lot better without them. All the members of PNAC should be flooged to death, I beilive none of them are really mature because they can only see things in black and white. Maturity, I think, is seeing things in relative, not absolute terms, I understand this and I am 17; some people just either don't grow up or the learning of rationallity was aborted by religious propaganda.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:49 PM
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55. flooged?
I'm sure your post will be deleted, but I couldn't help but chuckle at the word "flooged"

I agree with you by the way. These people are a huge threat to the world, and to us, and are the worst sort of criminals.

All their own arguments can be used against them. (i.e. what would you do if you knew you could stop Hitler early on etc.)

If we could take them out, we should take them out.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 02:47 PM
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54. he has made every american complicit in war crimes
and used my tax money to butcher people.

Here's an example of what we all helped pay for:



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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 03:09 PM
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57. Maybe it should be.....
Why don't you hate Bush? Take up less space. What's not to hate?
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