Are you watching the end of 60 Minutes! Bush's LIES listed by Rooney!

[LittleApple81]

I could not believe it. Rooney? had a wonderful list of Bush's lies!

Found this at the CBS link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/31/60minutes/rooney/main581171.shtml
Years ago, I was asked to write a speech for President Nixon.

I didn't do that, but I wish President Bush would ask me to write a speech for him now.

Here's what I'd write if he asked me to - which is unlikely:

My fellow Americans - (the word "fellow" includes women in political speeches):

My fellow Americans. One of the reasons we invaded Iraq was because I suggested Saddam Hussein had something to do with the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center. No evidence that's so, I wish I hadn't said it.

I said we were going to get Saddam Hussein. To be honest, we don't know whether we got him or not. Probably not.

I said we'd get Osama bin Laden and wipe out al Qaeda. We haven't been able to do that, either. I'm as disappointed as you are.

I probably shouldn't have said Iraq had nuclear weapons. Our guys and the U.N. have looked under every bed in Iraq and can't find one.

In one speech, I told you Saddam Hussein tried to buy the makings of nuclear bombs from Africa. That was a mistake and I wish I hadn't said that. I get bad information sometimes just like you do.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

[Melsky]

1. Interesting

I'm going to check that out when it's on on the west coast.

[Wonk]

45. mp3 here

591 k

[gulliver]

2. That was great!

It was a complete, full blast torpedo right into the side of the Good Ship Bush.

[soleft]

3. read a quote from Poppy's book

which basically said if we had invaded Baghdag (back in Gulf I, we would have found ourselves in an unwinnable urban gorilla war.

"You should always take your father's advice"

[economic justice]

4. Rooney Slam Dunk

I know a lady who told me the other day that she changed her mind about the war and about Bush after listening to something Andy Rooney said a few weeks back. He is certainly atoning for his original support of the war. At least I'm pretty sure he supported it before. He certainly doesn't now, that's for sure. Slam dunk.

[ShaneGR]

9. He apologized a few weeks ago

For supporting it, on the show.

[magnolia]

29. Actually....

...he was against the war before it began. When it started, he jumped on the pro-war band wagon and apologized for having been against it. Then a few weeks ago he apologized for apologizing. At least he's honest and admits it when he's wrong.

[JeebusH]

13. "...certainly atoning for his original support of the war."

Rooney was against the war originaly, but later jumped on the bangwagon after Saddam fell, so he's really atoning for that (just keeping the record straight)

[Pastiche423]

16. Unless Andy did a 180

from how he felt about the Afghanistan bombing, I wouldn't think he was ever for the Iraqi slaughter. But then, I don't have cable and haven't watched in a while.

From tonight's, "A word from Andy", I say WooHoo, Andy! You tell it, man!

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. YES!

I almost fell on the floor! He read from daddy Bush's book...the quote about "Not going into Iraq to win an unwinnable guerrilla war."
KUDOS to Andy!

[kentuck]

6. "Mission Accomplished" should have been "Mission Impossible"...

That's pretty much on target.

[Military Brat]

7. Send Andy Rooney to deal with the Reagan mini-series crap

See if he tells them to take a hike about editing it.

Go Andy!

[GOPBasher]

8. I'm glad some media still says the truth.

Honest journalists are few and far between these days. Good job, Andy!

[jbfam4]

11. let's drop CBS a line

and let them know how much we enjoyed Andy's part

[ScreamingMeemie]

10. It's about time.

On edit: It would have only been better if they had placed Andy at the head of the broadcast for once. But...we can't win them all.

[TennesseeWalker]

12. CBS has the reputation of being the "old people's network"

So, whether CBS's reputation is deserved or not, I do believe old people vote most frequently. It's going to take the wisdom of our elders to get us out of this mess.

Hooray for CBS, Andy Rooney, Dan Rather, 60 Minutes, Les Mooves for letting it happen....

I appreciate you guys looking after the welfare of our countries and not being total sell outs.

'Preciate 'cha!

[LittleApple81]

17. Old, young... VOTERS is what is important. Definitely writing a letter.

n/t

[TennesseeWalker]

20. My sentiments exactly.

The folks who grew up under good Democrats are going to wake up and get us out of this mess. Vietnam Vets will help, too. We're not as stupid as they think we are.

[janekat]

39. LOL! 60 minutes is the only show my Republican Dad watches

wonder what he thought.

[Malva Zebrina]

14. lots of people

like Rooney. They are loyal fans. He has captured the faith of a lot of people.

[Tatiana]

15. Damn!

He shoots, he scores! Kudos to Andy!

[blm]

18. Three cheers for Rooney!

Woot!
Woot!
Woot!

[hang a left]

19. My take on Rooney here is he is asking whistle to apologize to

the American people. Tell him he has made some mistakes, fess up, make ammends. Quit with all the tough guy rhetoric. This isn't the speech I would write for *bush, it is way too easy on him. I guess it is great for 60 minutes and all. I am glad they have been focusing on this administration.

[TacticalPeek]

21. History and the ex-CIA agents have drawn a bright line in the sand.

Now we know which side of the line Andy Rooney is on.

And so revealing also of how many 'journalists' remain in hiding.

[jburton]

22. LBJ lost Cronkite during Vietnam...

...*Bush lost Rooney over Iraq

[LittleApple81]

23. But then we elected Nixon... I hope that is not an omen. n/t

[jburton]

25. yes, but...

it was a "change"

that will be good for us this time

[veganwitch]

24. that was awesome!!!

its getting sent to everyone i know!!!

[mandyky]

26. WTG Andy Rooney!

Thanks, we wish they'd ask you to write that speech too, it beats more lies added to the ones he's already told.

[MarkTwain]

27. Holy Shit....

Damn powerful there, Andy. In Sunday prime time, no less.

As another man in a similar failed position at 1600 once said regarding a journalist from CBS, "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America."

McWarHardOn-DimSon is toast. Pure and Simple.

The bastard and his cabal are going down. Hard.

[goforit]

28. I sent him a feedback message!!....You all do the same.

I am impressed!!!

Go ANDY!!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. CBS is HOT tonight! Tommy Smothers

of the "Smothers Brothers" was on the CBS 75 year anniversary show and he said "The people running our country are MORONS" and Dick Smothers said "Now, why would you say something like that?" and Tommy said, "Well, someone "high up" in CBS "leaked" it to me" Hahahaha! Excellent skit! He really slammed the administration....he was ALWAYS good at doing that. :7

I didn't want to start a new thread for this...hope you don't mind me sticking it here since it IS the same network. :)

[TennesseeWalker]

31. CBS is America's Network!

Got all choked up watching all the old news hounds gathered on the stage. I wish them all good health and long life, because we need them more than ever.

FOX NEWS should have watched that and been ashamed of themselves. Have they no decency?

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. I agree

the old timers have integrity. Faux news is nothing but a mouthpiece for the WH...I don't consider Faux a news channel, not even close.

[Faygo Kid]

32. Thanks. Can't be said enough.

Thanks to you, the Smothers Brothers and Andy Rooney (never thought I would say the latter, but he has awakened - bless him, especially at his age). Can we build on this? Those of us who are Boomers, have a special responsibility to say: Enough is Enough! Can we recapture what we once were - and have lost?

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. Well,

I sure as hell hope so. We NEED the media though! They must start telling the truth. We cannot do it alone. Without the media, we are nothing. Look at the DC protest that they didn't bother to cover. :(

[TennesseeWalker]

38. CBS is tired of this shit. And those guys on that stage tonight...

the country they've dedicated their lives to building is busy tearing itself down. America as we know it (well, what it's mostly still like) was built by those men on the stage.

[Kinkistyle]

42. You could see it in Dan Rather's eyes during the invasion.

You could see that Dan Rather was NOT happy about having to report the events of the invasion. Especially when things started going wrong and people realized it wasn't going to be the cakewalk that the Pentagon and WH were predicting it was going to be, I could feel quiet anger seething from Rather.

[Snellius]

34. Amazing how any honesty on tv shatters the screen

The truth burns through. It's so rare to hear anything genuine. Not selling something. Or afraid of someone. Or repeating what they've been hired to say. Or smiling to put a happy face on everything. Or feigning outrage over some invented slight. If you could punch your finger through most of the dummies on televsion these days they would be hollow inside.

[VolcanoJen]

Holy Freaking Crap! Unexpected from that curmudgeon.

I've honestly not been a fan of Rooney's. I've always found him a little too out-of-touch with younger Americans (and I'm no spring chicken, either).

This is really amazing stuff, especially considering it aired during one of the most viewed weekly programs.

Thanks, Andy. I've changed my mind about you... you are in touch, and I've probably got a lot to learn from you.

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[proud patriot]

37. Woooooo Hoooooo

:loveya: Andy

[janekat]

40. Sounds like CBS is at war tonight with Bush & Co.

hope they keep it up.

[maine_raptor]

41. Missed it, but it's not surprising..........

Rooney is, as someone pointed out above, from the "Old School". When he covered WWII for CBS, he flew as a gunner on a mission to get an idea of what the air war was about. He worked with Edward R Murrow and has some of his integrity ("some" because I have faulted his work in the past).

Now as mentioned above also, when LBJ heard that Walter C. was going "soft" on the Vietnam War, he knew the jig was up, he'd lost middle America. Rooney could be Bush's Walter C. But times have changed and there is a lot more noise (Faux, Tweety, Russler Tim, etc.) to drowm him out than there was to drown out Walter.

And I do have to object to CBS being titled the "People's Network". In the years just after JFK's murder, CBS, along with the New York Times and others, were big supporter of the Warren Commission. CBS even went so far as to air a 3 hour long "White Paper" on the validity of the WC and "debunking" conspiracy theories over a 3 night period in 1965. For that alone, I would NOT call them the "People's Network" no way, no how.

[kimchi]

43. Sent feedback!

Positive reinforcement to CBS. The truth keeps leaking out. Go Andy!

[nostamj]

44. sometimes Andy bores me, sometimes Andy annoys me

NOT TONIGHT!

is WillPitt ghostwriting AR?

blistering. sweet!

rage rage against the dying of the light andy!

[Jane Eyre]

46. SPAM THIS!!!

Andy Rooney's monologue should be in thousands of email boxes by tomorrow morning, millions by the end of the week.

Send it out to at least ten friends...NOW!!!

[ScreamingMeemie]

47. kick

[Tansy_Gold]

48. I'm no fan of Andy Rooney, and he isn't saying * lied. . . .

. . .. he's giving the little weasel excuses for all the lies.

"I wish they hadn't put up that sign. . . .

"I hope the kids don't have to pay. . . .

"I probably shouldn't have said. . . .

"I'm as disappointed as you are. . ..

WHERE DID HE SAY * LIED?????

I've disliked Rooney for a very long time. I've seen him do some really stupid crap and try to get laughs at the expense of others. Now, reading this and hearing Rooney's pathetic little voice in my head, I can imagine that the underlying message he's sending is, "Aw, c'mon, look at poor George, he's in such a mess, but it's not really his fault and you know he's really sorry for all the problems. Deep down he's a reasonable, caring person, and if he'd just be given a chance to apologize. . .. "

No, if Rooney really wanted to write speech * would never give, he'd have written:

"My Fellow Americans, I come before you humbly tonight (or this afternoon, or whenever it happens to be) to admit to you that I lied. I lied not once, but repeatedly. I lied to cover my lies to the point that I couldn't even find where the lies began. And I lied so often that I began to believe the lies myself. But they were lies, pure and simple, and many other people have paid a horrible price for my lies. There can be no excusing what I did, no sugar-coating it, no pushing the blame onto others, even if they deserve it. I am the Commander in Chief, the appointed leader of the free world, and I have fallen derelict in my duty, not only to my country but to the world. I have strayed from any semblance of upholding my oath of office, which may have been the very first lie I told as your unelected president.

"My Fellow Americans, every policy I have put forth, every judicial nominee I have made, every prouncement I have given you has been either a lie or based on a lie. Misinformation doesn't excuse it. Wishing it weren't so doesn't make it go away. Hoping someone will find a way out of the mess I've created of the economy, the social services network, the state of world diplomacy, everything -- no one is going to come along and bail me out of this one, not even Daddy.

"My Fellow Americans, I have failed you and I have failed you most miserably, not because I didn't try or because my heart wasn't in the right place, or for any other reason than I lied. I lied about things so far beyond anything my predecessor lied about that I am ashamed even to mention his name. But President Clinton never lied the way I did, not about public policy and national security. To him perhaps more than to anyone I owe a personal apology for my lies. And so do all the people who looked to me to be their leader in some great conservative resurrection and saw him as their personal moral enemy.

"My Fellow Americans, lies are the greatest moral enemy of any American administration, and my lies, the ones that have come from my own mouth of my own volition and from the motivation of my own personal desire for power, are the greatest moral enemy facing the United States and the world today. No one who has spoken so many lies and whose lies have put so many lives in peril has any right to continue to call himself your president.

"My Fellow Americans, I have lied. And now I will attempt to repair the damage my lies have caused by immediately tendering my resignation as your President, a job I have failed miserably at and to which I was never elected. As part of my resignation, I will exercise what remains of my executive privilege by removing from power those who would stand in the way of our great nation returning to the kind of honest and open government it deserves. When Mr. Cheney, Mr. Delay, Mr. Hastert, and any other members of my administration who have colluded with my lies have been officially removed from positions of authority and influence, I will step down and hand the reins of power over to the properly instituted authority."

No excuses, no whining, no wimping out, no wishing it hadn't happened.



Tansy Gold