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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:09 PM
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Jeb wants to have a drug tracking program for Oxycontin, and others.
This makes me nervous, a little. I guess I am afraid that all this tender loving care and tracking will prevent or discourage doctors from treating patients properly.

I do not like this, as I know doctors are already afraid to give their patients the proper pain medication for fear of problems. This is just wrong.

Jeb, butt out.

Jeb wants to track Oxycontin
SNIP..."Gov. Jeb Bush is backing a proposal to track prescriptions in hopes of cutting the number of deaths from the painkiller OxyContin and other drugs likely to be abused.

The governor wrote the Orlando Sentinel for Saturday editions in response to a series on addiction and overdose deaths to say the newspaper "exposed a problem that is too widespread and deadly to ignore."

State House Speaker Johnnie Byrd said he would support legislation with a three-year "sunset" provision to review the estimated $3 million in annual operating costs and privacy issues.

The tracking system would enable doctors, pharmacists, state officials and law-enforcement agencies to look for instances of overprescribing and abuse......"

AND, the manufacturer of Oxycontin wants to give 2 million to pay for it.

Am I off base here? Is my thinking skewed? I just see too much potential for harm to patients who really need it. They cut me off too quickly from strong pain medicine after a surgery, just said no more. It happened to my daughter as well. The nurses were sorry. That did not help the pain.

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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:15 PM
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1. Well, I suppose you could appeal to Bob Novakula. He'll make it better
"suck it up and quit whining."

Sorry, I know that's a stupid insensitive thing to say but I'm just so goddamned mad at these Bush bastards and most everything else, it's the
best I can do. Maybe I ought to just go outside and shoot out some street lights. :grr:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:16 PM
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2. These kinds of laws are bad...really bad.
While pandering to the right wing reactionaries who cannot stand the fact that someone might be taking psychoactive chemicals for amusement, these same kinds of programs end up with idiocies like refusing to give proper pain management to terminally ill people because they might get addicted.

This shit pisses me off.
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:16 PM
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3. Jeb's spinning for Rush Limbaugh
Jeb's doing some payback for ElRushbo. He's saying in effect: "We're gonna put in a trackin' system. That way, it'll be harder for "good" people like ElRusbo to ever become addicted to OxyContin. So, look - what happened to RL isn't entirely his fault. If we'd had this sytem in place, Rush wouldn't have become dependent on prescription medication for his back pain. There's really no need to lock up Rush. We're taking action to make sure no more good people can become addicted to these powerful prescription medications."

Of course, what Jeb SHOULD be doing, is advocating that everone in Florida should be subject to the same laws, and if someone has been found to have brokent them, then they ought to be sent up (or down) to the Big House for a few years, to get straigtened out. That'll do more to deter people than some PR scheme advanced by Rush's lawyers and PR consultant (which is where the idea most likely originated).
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:19 PM
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4. Well of course it's not sweet little pigboy's fault....
Those evil damn quack doctors got him hooked!!!!! :eyes:

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:21 PM
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5. They did not prescribe it. He was having the maid buy them in a
parking lot.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:16 PM
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8. That would make far too much sense
What will really happen is that Rash Lamebawl will get out of rehab a new man, ready to shill for the most radically loony elements in the DEA, campaigning against all painkillers for all pain patients. You see, a distinguishing hallmark of right wing disease is the total lack of personal boundaries. Since Lamebawl got himself hooked on drugs, nobody should be able to get those same drugs, even pain patients who use them responsibly.

You can trust me on this one. I would bet the rent it's all part of his plea bargain
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:37 PM
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6. Johnnie Byrd is really polishing up his resume for the Senate........
Jeb says jump and Johnnie brings the measuring tape.

Rest assured the best interests of the pharmaceutical manufacturers are Jub-Jub's main priority. Oh yeah, and finding a scapegoat for brother Rush in the process.

:mad:
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:39 PM
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7. More proof Jeb is a moron...
If he wanted to practice medicine, he should have
become a doctor.

Christ!
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:37 AM
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12. Jeb doesnt have the brains
to become a doctor..just look at the mess he's made in the state of Fl..can you imagine what he'd do w/ someone's life?? He's already made megamesses in FL..
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:26 PM
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9. i may be wrong but
the feds already track this class of drugs. doctors do not over prescribe these drugs for the fear of the patients becoming addicted. stores such as walgreens and others keep records of all these class drugs being prescribed.
of course jebbie is full of shit and covering for rush. the manufacture, the pharmacits and rush and his maid were all part of a crimnal enterprise to distribute oxycontin. they face up to "life" in federal prison,in reality the average sentence around ten years. rush will never serve a day in prison...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 11:37 PM
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10. You know what, I think they are already doing this. Article.
Found this from July.
Clinics like this are of course bad. However, with extremists like the Jeb bunch, I fear it might impact legit doctors and patients.

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1154/a04.html

SNIP..."MELBOURNE -- Drug agents Tuesday arrested a pain-clinic doctor and a number of his patients in a major prescription-drugbust that could be linked to eight overdose deaths.

Authorities said the arrests are part of a statewide investigation into the abuse of such powerful narcotics as OxyContin. More patients and doctors could be arrested in the coming weeks, they said.

Shortly after 9 a.m. agents raided the We Really Care pain clinic on Sarno Road. They apprehended Dr. Sarfraz "Sam" Mirza, 60, and his office manager, Jackie Leblanc, 42. ....."

I know my pain medicine after surgery was Vicodin, and it is less powerful than Oxycontin. Most doctors here use the morphine drip after surgery, then straight to Vicodin, then quickly off.



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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:35 AM
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11. Jeb wants
to keep all the Oxy for himself and his buds...it's not them who have a problem, it's everyone else! They think the people are stupid.
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lysergik Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:39 AM
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13. He's gotta keep tabs on his Daughter Somehow! n/t
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