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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:06 AM
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Israelis, the Mossad and 9-11
Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 01:07 AM by eablair3
from The Sunday Herald, Nov 2 -- a good recount of the various articles and info.

Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ...


Were they part of a massive spy ring which shadowed the 9/11 hijackers and knew that al-Qaeda planned a devastating terrorist attack on the USA? Neil Mackay investigates



THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: “It’s very good.” Then he corrected himself, adding: “Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy .”

If Israel’s closest ally felt the collective pain of mass civilian deaths at the hands of terrorists, then Israel would have an unbreakable bond with the world’s only hyperpower and an effective free hand in dealing with the Palestinian terrorists who had been murdering its innocent civilians as the second intifada dragged on throughout 2001.

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http://ww1.sundayherald.com/37707
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:38 AM
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1. I'd read about the Israeli film crew some time back
And the Mossad connection has ALWAYS nagged at the back of my brain on this.

Thanks for the link.

Eloriel
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:47 AM
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2. I read the Urban Moving story as well.
Also, I read about the art students selling paintings (supposedly Mossad) to gain access to look at certain gov. buildings and to track terrorists here. I generally dismissed it in that it sounded too conspiracy oriented. It did spook me a little in that I was visited by Israeli art students selling art though.
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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 04:09 AM
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5. mmonk
where do you work?

This happened to me, too, when I worked for an internet company in Santa Monica. Really bizarre. Comely Israeli girl. The buiding I worked in looked very bland, boring and government-like, so maybe they were checking it out.

She wanted to get past me in reception and show her paintings to everyone in the office. I humored here, took her email address, which later turned out to not work.

Didn't even remember, until I heard about "the dancing Israeli's" on 9-11.

Captain MIke
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 04:57 AM
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6. She was never there, you didn't see her, there were no art students

The 911 events were the work of evildoers who hate freedom.

The president prefers that they not be looked into too closely, since he has explained all anyone who is not with the terrorists would want to know.
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 02:06 AM
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3. One wonders
One wonders if these details are in the missing pages of that Sept 11 report that the reThug party has buried.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 02:48 AM
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4. I wrote to Neil MacKay. He's an excellent journalist.
Here's the exchange we had back in July. I think you'll agree that he's on our side.

From: "A. Nonymous" <XXXXXX@XXXXXX>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 19:05:39 -0700
To: <neil.mackay@sundayherald.com>
Subject: A heartfelt thank-you from a concerned American




Mr. Mackay,

After reading your piece, "Rage. Mistrust. Hatred. Fear. Uncle Sam's enemies within", in the Sunday Herald, I am compelled to express my profound gratitude to you for recognizing the truth about Americans.

Many of my fellow citizens seem to willingly blind themselves to the dangers we now face from our own government - indeed, the dangers that have lurked under the surface for decades now, dangers that the majority of the American populace simply cannot or will not acknowledge. I am ashamed to be associated with these unthinking, willfully obedient, arrogant Americans who wouldn't know a true patriot if he slapped them with a copy of the Patriot Act.

One of my worst fears is that such ignorance and compliance from those who cannot accept reality would lead people the world over to generalize all Americans, to simply assume we all support the burgeoning fascist state now being foisted upon us. Nothing could be further from the truth. I, and so many others, are vehemently opposed to the crimes of the United States government, be they under Bush or any other official, from any era. These men do not represent us, and we do not condone their actions.

Your piece is a tremendous reassurance to me. I cannot describe the relief at knowing that someone, somewhere outside the United States (United Empire?) understands that we are in a terrible position. Yes, we are fat, lazy, know-it-alls sometimes, but we are also dedicated to truth and justice for people everywhere.

I tremble to see the mindless masses around me. I sometimes fear pressing 'send' on an email such as this, knowing as I do that Ashcroft's cronies could swoop down and silence me, given enough rope with which to string up a dissenter like myself. I have suffered verbal attacks, been called everything from a Saddam-sympathizer (which my government certainly was in the 80s) to a traitor, told I have the same mindset as Osama bin Laden (who I, with no prodding needed from my government, already condemned for violent extremism) - I have even been pulled over by the police for having an upside-down American flag, the universal S.O.S. signal, on my car's antenna. Yet I refuse to cower. Even know, I continue to speak up, I add more bumper stickers to my car denouncing the horrors of the Bush regime, and attend protests and find ways to fight back.

Your words have reminded me that, perhaps, we Americans who live in fear under what is essentially a military occupation (an invisible one for now) are not in this battle alone. For this, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Thank you for remembering us.



Sincerely,

Matthew




Dear Matthew,

Thanks so much for your email. I can't tell you how sad it makes me to hear how you feel about your country. America as an idea is without question the most enlightened venture that human beings have ever put into practice - however, what is happening in the US right now is the polar opposite of the great ideals your nation represents.

I'm glad you found the article worthwhile - but I can tell you that many of your fellow countrymen did not. I've waded through many vitriolic emails this morning attacking the newspaper and myself for having the temerity to state the obvious.

A reader from Iowa told me I was (bizarrely enough) a Canadian pimp, whereas in Michigan I'm just a plain old 'a-hole'. Either way, I appear to have committed a liberal atrocity that is unforgiveable: exercising my freedom as a journalist to write as I find.

The irony is painful at times. How can people who live in a nation built on the idea of freedom, happily attack others for daring to exercise their freedoms - of speech, of thought, of assembly? Dissent is surely what America is about.

But I have to say that most of the readers who write to me from the USA are true American patriots - just like you - they are loyal to the republican ideas of liberty and freedom, not the incumbent in the White House.

Once again, thank your for your email and I wish you all the very best.

Cheers,

Neil



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PS...would you like to turn your very moving email into a letter for our letters page - it would be great to see the sentiments of a true American patriot represented on our letters page?

Clearly, I was very moved and humbled by his comment!

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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:50 AM
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7. Locking
This story has been disproved many times and is just inted as flame bait

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