Yo what's up with the NRA being listed under the Conservative Idiots list

[BallaFaseke]

Did they tick off someone of you guys for pointing out that some folks are anti-gun?

Oh no their members might not want to support people who hate their hobby.

[neuvocat]

1. Explain yourself.

Because your grammar really sucks.

[BallaFaseke]

4. I just find it funny that the NRA having a longtime "blacklist" upsets

a lot of fellow liberals. It's like cool to poke fun at the NRA.

Gun ownership is not a liberal/conservative issue.

[neuvocat]

18. Yeah really.

I mean, look at all those prominent conservatives who advocate gun control, especially the ones that the NRA blacklisted.

[RapidCreek]

21. They're Conservative and their idiots...Clear enough?

Gun ownership isn't a liberal/conservative issue, true enough, yet the NRA seeks to make it one...and that is, quite simply, idiotic.

The NRA having a blacklist doesn't upset liberals that I'm aware of. Particularly those of us that are gun owners. What upsets us is the fact that we all haven't been afforded the honor of inclusion on that list. I am the owner of a registered firearm. What I do find upsetting is the fact that the NRA seeks to paint me with the same idiocy they have painted themselves. It does me, as a responsible gun owner, and those like me, no service.

Owning a gun is only half of the equation of being in the NRA....The other half has to do with being a paranoid, uninformed, idiot.


RC

[La_Serpiente]

2. Some liberals

see it as a badge of honor.

They have a blacklist in which they say who is anti-NRA.

I know MANY friends of mine who would sign up in a jiffy.

But there are some pro-gun people on this message board. It is just that you have to be able to defend your posistion if you are pro-gun.

[ComerPerro]

3. I am guessing it had to do with

The fact that they have anyone and everyone on their "enemies list".

[BallaFaseke]

5. So what makes it conservative?

[ComerPerro]

6. Their platform, their leadership, their ideas,

Pick one.

[wuushew]

7. Does the organization reflect the values of its' members?

Because most gun nuts are not what I would call liberal

[BallaFaseke]

8. There lies the problem

most liberals are not pro-gun therefore the NRA cannot endorse them.

They constantly gave Howard Dean an 'A" rating.

[izzie]

20. All the liberals I know are gun people.

Sorry that I do not know if they are in the NRA but they do like guns. I frankly think it is crazy to think I am going to be safer with every one carrying a gun around but these people like to use guns and hunt. I am used to it and do hope they are not crazy with them. Those are the ones that get me up tight. Some of these guns seem to me should be in the army only.And please do not brong them to the country fair.

[La_Serpiente]

9. Most conservatives I know at least do not suport anymore gun legislation

I think it is more of a word of mouth thing.

[BallaFaseke]

10. Yeah I'll admit that

They are more partisan than say Gun Owners of America which is strictly a pro-second amendment group.

[Lexingtonian]

11. 'cause the leadership is conservative idiots, of course

The leadership of the NRA consists of radical rightwingers, and they steer the organization far further to the Right than their membership is in the mean. The word is 'hijacked'. The average NRA member is an elderly white man who likes hunting and guns and target shooting, but rarely actually uses one. And is often the conservatives' variety of environmentalist.

'pro-gun' and 'anti-gun' are stances that have nothing to do with shooting guns as a hobby or even hunting- you have bought into the nitwit propaganda. The serious issue to it is what quantity of firearms, and under what circumstances, amounts to enablement of criminals and sociopaths toward violent crimes.

[BallaFaseke]

13. Then why not single out Kayne Robinson instead of attacking

the entire organization?

[Lexingtonian]

19. why do?

The Hestons and LaPierres of the organization aren't disavowing him.

[lcordero]

12. I don't like the NRA because they have people like

Ted Nugent representing them.
I feel that the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership and the National Black Sportsman's Association are more to my tastes.

[DoNotRefill]

14. I'm curious....

We call the NRA's list of anti-gun people a "blacklist".

Do we also call other group's lists of people who oppose their positions "blacklists" too?

For instance, the Million Mom March puts up a list of people they claim are pro-Second Amendment in their "time out chair" section. Is that a blacklist?

Several animal rights groups put out lists of companies and people to boycott because of animal testing or for other reasons (like Ted Nugent). Is that a blacklist?

At what point does a "boycott list" become a "blacklist"? Or is it simply a matter of if you agree with the person compiling the list or not?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

15. Their hobby is electing Republicans. I hate their hobby too.

[BallaFaseke]

16. They elect Dems

endorsed ol Howard Dean.

Heck John Dingell on their board of directors!

[wuushew]

17. This better not become an anti-Dean thread

Dean advocates sensible gun policy..can you prove he is going to reverse gun law as the NRA would like?

[Lexingtonian]

22. Oh wow.

Wanna bet some money whether they endorse Dean over Bush?

And John Dingell...I admire him for his fight and determination, to some degree for standing up for the unions and working people of his district, but everything about him is all the strengths and weaknesses of '60s and '70s Democratic politicians and being an mean old man. He'd be Zell Miller if his Calvinism didn't prevent him from being a Republican.

[DoNotRefill]

23. No bet...

for the simple reason that it's their policy to endorse the incumbent over the challenger, even if they have exactly the same positions.

[Lexingtonian]

24. ?

Of course they endorse the incumbent if the stances are equal or the incumbent is more to their liking.

But surely they endorse the challenger if s/he's Their Wo/Man and the incumbent is worse in their p.o.v.

[GabysPoppy]

25. Locking this thread

Questions regarding policy should be asked in the A/T/A forum.

You may repost the discussion of gun policy amongst members of the Democratic party in the appropriate forum provided.

GabysPoppy
DU Moderator