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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 11:46 AM
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BBV new nytimes article
Forbidden files are circulating on the Internet and threats of lawsuits are in the air. Music trading? No, it is the growing controversy over one company’s electronic voting systems, and the issues being raised, some legal scholars say, are as fundamental as the sanctity of elections and the right to free speech.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/03/business/media/03secure.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:45 PM
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1. I don't like that they mention just ONE company.
Statements like that absolves the others.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:57 PM
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2. It goes beyond Diebold:
"As Diebold continued to deal with the headache resulting from its leaked code last week, hackers released software from another of the three major high-tech election companies, Sequoia Voting Systems. Reports of that leak first appeared in the online news service of Wired magazine, which suggested that the company’s software also suffered from poor security design. "

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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:25 PM
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3. Kicking up
...Diebold and Sequoia probably count most of the votes that aren't counted by ES&S- and now both companies have had their super secret files out in public.

Security thourgh secrecy-yeah, right.

Voter-verified paper ballots- because democracy deserves some insurance policy.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:18 PM
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6. Amen Sister AMEN!
and thats why I am running...But then you knew that.

What a ride this is going to be.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:15 PM
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4. What is important
is they are showing DMCA is being abused and is not just about swapping songs.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:17 PM
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5. Ah yes the DMCA......thankyou Clinton
one of the worst pieces of legislation passed in the 1990's.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:44 PM
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7. Tres Tres Cool.. Bev appears in final two paras.. BUT WHERE'S THE BEEF???
Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 06:47 PM by althecat
Some observers of the fight say it is having an effect beyond ones and zeroes and virtual forms of hanging chad. Bev Harris, who is writing a book on the electronic voting industry, was among the first people to place the Diebold files online.

She said that when she began her research, young people tended to tell her that voting was irrelevant to their lives. That is changing, she said; “What more important thing can we do so that we can get them involved, and see how important voting is?”


http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/03/business/media/03secure.html?pagewanted=5


What I can't understand is why they report the fact that everybody is copying the memos.. but don't report on what is in them... namely:

- Evidence of the routine sale of Vaporware
- Gross Negligence on security (the GEMS audit workaround)
- The use of uncertified software
- Evidence of the intentional hacking of the Volusia County vote tally on election night 2002

And lots more besides. The story about the kids and their protest is great. But what about the substance!!!!

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm
The Diebold Memos' Smoking Gun
Volusia County Memos Disclose Election 2000 Vote Fraud


I really thought the Volusia story based on the Memos would get picked up. Not only because it is a great story but because it proves that the official record of what happened on election night 2000 - as reported by CBS, the Washington Post and the NYT is wrong.

That is, those media outlets reported information about why there was such a screw up on election night 2000 that we now know is false. And that we have essentially incontrovertible evidence of that fact.

Surely they have an obligation to now correct their earlier incorrect reports...

Perhaps some letter writing might be in order..

Al
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:09 PM
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8. Just spotted a thread on Fox News carrying a report... anyone catch
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