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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:39 PM
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So How's the White House Leak Investigation Going?
Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 06:06 PM by Stevendsmith
Apparently it's going nowhere, because no one has been frog-marched out of the White House yet.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:41 PM
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1. TraitorGate!
least we forget.

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:01 PM
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8. Thankyou, It Is Not a Fuckin' Leak Ya'll that is the Propaganda
A 'leak' is an insider revealing wrongdoing, ok, a whistle blower!!!

This is a felony Fucking Crime, Treason!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:41 PM
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2. Inspector ClueSo (Ashcrack)
Is apparently "hot on the trail" of the evildoers. NOT.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:42 PM
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3. Ken Lay has the investigation hidden in an offshore account...
along with those 16 words and Cheney's energy commission minutes.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:49 PM
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4. They decided to drop the investigation
and reopen the hunts for the anthrax killer and Osama Bomb Laden.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:52 PM
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5. it's going perfectly
another couple of weeks, another bogus economic report, and another helo or two shot down and everyone will forget all about it

just as planned
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:52 PM
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6. They put O.J. on the case
He'll find who leaked just as soon as he's done tracking down Nicole and Ron's killer.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 05:53 PM
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7. What White House Leak Investigation?
:eyes:
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:02 PM
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9. Warning, edit out the 'WTF' or your thread gets locked
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:03 PM
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10. One theory . . . with valuable links:
Reports originally said (erroneously, as it turned out) that Wilson was sent to Niger at the behest of the Vice-President's Office. Who would Novak have called first in those days following Wilson's July 6, 2003 Op-Ed in _The NY Times_? The Office of the Vice-President, naturally.

Immediately after his July 6 op-ed in the _New York Times_, Joseph C. Wilson was thought to have been sent to Niger in February of 2002 at the behest of the Vice President (later vigorously denied by Dick Cheney, September 14 th on Meet the Press, see link #1, below). (This misunderstanding may have arisen from a clumsy reading of Wilson's Op-Ed, in which he wrote that he "was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report." and "The vice president's office asked a serious question. I was asked to help formulate the answer." See quotations in next paragraph that indicate mistaken in early July that Wilson was sent directly at behest of Cheney.) Robert Novak, _Chicago Sun Times_ columnist and televison commentator, by his own admission "was curious why a high-ranking official in President Bill Clinton's National Security Council was given this assignment" (link #5). Those are the facts. From those facts, can we deduce who Novak would have called first? The Vice-President's office, of course.

Some proof of misconception in second week of July 2003 that VP sent Wilson: Ray McGovern reflects this misconception in a July 14 open memorandum to Bush: "There is just too much evidence that Ambassador Wilson was sent to Niger at the behest of Vice President Cheney's office, and that Wilson's findings were duly reported not only to that office but to others as well." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4107.htm . As does Will Pitt when he writes on July 11: "Wilson was dispatched in February of 2002 at the behest of Dick Cheney to investigate the veracity of the Niger evidence." http://www.agitprop.org.au/nowar/20030711_pitt_bush_you_are_a_liar.htm . Ian Macpherson writes, similarly, "Now it appears that Wilson was sent to Niger at the behest of none other than Vice President Cheney's department" http://www.netnacs.com/downunder/archive/du-0026.htm . Steve Perry continues the error even at the end of the month: "It was Wilson who traveled to Africa in 2002 at Dick Cheney's behest" http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/sperry/stories/storyReader$517 .

So . . . Novak would have called Cheney or, more likely, Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Cheney's Chief-of-Staff (or, perhaps a staff member directly below Scooter). To find out "why a high-ranking official in President Bill Clinton's National Security Council was given this assignment," Novak would have gone to the presumptive "assigner."

How would the conversation have gone (using Scooter Libby as the contact)? They would talked about Wilson's editorial, why the State-of-the-Union Speech referred to Nigerian yellow-cake uranium and why Powell didn't mention it at the UN, and how Cheney had never sent Wilson on any mission. Then Scooter explains, telling Novak that Cheney, the previous winter (Feb. 2002) had asked the CIA to look into the reports of uranium sales to Iraq from Niger and that it was the CIA at the VP's behest who had sent Wilson. Then Scooter lets it drop, "Well, did you know Wilson's wife works for the Company? Let's see . . . yeah, right Valerie Plame. Word is that she was the one who had him sent to Niger." Novak's ears perk up (all he hears is "nepotism," missing the real insinuation: that Wilson put his wife up to having him sent because he had an anti-War agenda or because he was anti-administration and wanted to put the breaks on the early momentum toward the Iraqi war). Novak checks spelling ("P-L-A-M-E"), thanks Scooter, hangs up. Checks second source, etc.

It's important to realize the purpose was to discredit Wilson as a maverick-with-an-agenda, getting his wife to send him on a mission the results of which would undercut Bush's designs on Iraq.

Paul Krugman, as he so often does, gets to the marrow: "both the columnist Robert Novak and Time magazine say that administration officials told them that they believed that Mr. Wilson had been chosen through the influence of his wife, whom they identified as a C.I.A. operative."
( http://www.mail-archive.com/marxism@lists.panix.com/msg47823.html ) The purpose, therefore, was NOT revenge, NOR punishment, but to undercut Wilson's credibility. (To be fair, Krugman later, inexplicability concludes: "So why would they do such a thing? Partly, perhaps, to punish Mr. Wilson, but also to send a message.") IN the July 22 Newsday item (see link in Timeline) Wilson also admits to befuddlement: "They were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising," he said. "There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason," he said. "I can't figure out what it could be."

Given the circumstance of the following summer (2003) when everyone was questioning the existence of WMDs, considering that someone who had investigated one of the claims Bush made in his State-of-the-Union Speech just undercut him in a July 6 NY Times op-ed piece, Scooter's plant was artful and effective, despite Novak's dull-witted interpretation (nepotism). It was clever about crushing anyone (Libby is more circumspect and pragmatic than Rove). The purpose was not primarily to inflict revenge upon Wilson, nor was it necessarily a warning to others who might take similar public stands, but to undercut an opponent who had momentarily risen in their midst. Bloodlessly, swiftly.

I know that if the purpose of the leak was revenge or a warning to others, the political damage to the administration would be worse. Since no one is likely to go to jail since bar for conviction under the operant law is rather high, all we can hope for is political damage. But mistaking the motive may well lead us in the wrong direction and allow the entire story to gradually dissipate in the short-shelf life of public attention. As it is, the administration will have to account for a coordinated attempt (2 leakers) to discredit a man who has ably served five administrations and was even labeled "courageous" by George Walker Bush. Perhaps those charged will tell investigators who else was in on the meetings where the strategy to discredit Wilson was hatched. (It was certainly coordinated and continuous, as attested to by the July 17 and 22 similar stories in Time and Newsweek–see timeline, below) Perhaps not.




TIMELINE:


(More detailed and much fuller timelines, distracting for our purpose, can be found at: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/US/uranium030714_timeline.html and http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=niger_timeline )

ca. 2001

Wilson: "I was invited out to meet with a group of people at the CIA who were interested in this subject. None I knew more than casually. They asked me about my understanding of the uranium business and my familiarity with the people in the Niger government at the time. And they asked, 'what would you do?' We gamed it out--what I would be looking for. Nothing was concluded at that time. I told them if they wanted me to go to Niger I would clear my schedule. Then they got back to me and said, 'yes, we want you to go'" (qtd. in link #2).

2002

February: Joseph C. Wilson is sent to Niger to investigate rumors of sales of yellow-cake uranium to Iraq. His trip lasts eight days: "drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people: current government officials, former government officials, people associated with the country's uranium business. It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place" (from NY Times, 6 July 2003, qtd. in http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/cia-gate.htm ).

March 9: "CIA reportedly sends cable that does not name Wilson but says Nigerien officials denied the allegations," according to ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/US/uranium030714_timeline.html

2003

January 28: George W. Bush's State of the Union Address.

June 12: Walter Pincus reports in the _The Washington Post_ that an unnamed retired diplomat had given the CIA a negative report concerning uranium sales from Niger to Iraq. ( http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2003/Bush-Iraqi-Uranium-Forged12jun03.htm )

July 6: Joseph Wilson publishes his Op-Ed in _The New York Times_ , criticizing the administration for allowing Bush to make the Niger-uranium claim in the State of the Union Address. (Link #4 for the Op-Ed.) Richard Leiby and Walter Pincus write an article discussing Wilson's work in Niger and quoting his unfavorable administration comments: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/135174809_intel06.html

July 13: Robert Novak publishes his column in _The Chicago Sun-Times_ in which Valerie Plame is identified as a CIA agent. Novak writes: "Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me his wife suggested sending Wilson to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him" (qtd. in link #3).

July 17: Time magazine publishes the same basic story, also attributing it to "government officials."

July 22, Newsday also confirms "that Valerie Plame ... works at the agency on weapons of mass destruction issues in an undercover capacity." Link:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/iraq/ny-uscia0722,0,6160519.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

Sept. 14: Dick Cheney on Meet the Press denies knowing Wilson and seemingly goes out of his way to say "I don't know Mr. Wilson. I probably shouldn't judge him. I have no idea wh hired him and it never came..." Russert interposes: "The CIA did." And Cheney responds, "Who in the CIA, I don't know." (Link #3) (Why is Cheney going out of his way to volunteer this information? Wilson seems similarly perplexed; in an interview with Ann Goodman, also in link #3, after Goodman says "He (Cheney) also said that he didn't know who had sent you, raising questions about the whole legitimacy of your mission to Niger," Wilson says, "I heard that. I don't know what the Vice President was trying to get at in that. )

Oct. 1: Robert Novak publishes his column in _The Chicago Sun-Times_ recounting the entire story from his vantage. (Link #5)



* * * * * * Laws * * * * *

1917: Espionage Act (thrice amended since).

1982: The Intelligence Identities and Protection Act

Both are discussed by John Dean at http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030815.html




* * * * * * Links * * * * *


Link #1: http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/16/1555209
Link #2: http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?bid=3&pid=823
Link #3: http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/16/1555209
Link #4: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm
or http://truthout.org/docs_03/100203B.shtml
Link #5: http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak01.html



* * * * * Bibliographies * * * * *

http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/cia-gate.htm (a bibliog. of articles criticizing the admin.)
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:05 PM
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11. Great Info!
Thanks!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:21 PM
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15. Skip Fox, YOU RULE!!
:yourock:

Excellent job as usual. You have mad skills, dude.
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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:09 PM
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12. Getting to it.
They'll get to it as soon as they find the Anthrax killer. How long has that travesty been going on?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:10 PM
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13. It's going GREAT! the Sheeple have almost forgot all about it...
What with the helicopter getting shot down, and that little girl out in Hawaii losin' her arm to that shark and all....
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:18 PM
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14. pressure on Ashcroft to recuse himself

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17084
Pressure on Ashcroft to Recuse Himself Grows

By Murray Waas, AlterNet
October 31, 2003

Several senior federal law enforcement officials in recent days have spoken privately amongst themselves of what they believe to be an increasing necessity by Attorney General John Ashcroft to formally recuse himself from any further role in the probe as to who leaked the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame. Investigators have begun to interview a number of personal friends and political associates of Ashcroft and members of his senior staff.
...more...
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:26 PM
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16. It's going as good as the Yale bombing investigation...
...disappearing stories! I LOVE IT!
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 06:43 PM
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17. if anything
it should be called operation cover our asses.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:19 PM
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18. They found the source!
A bad o-ring seal on one of the upstairs toilets.


;-)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 07:50 PM
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19. Patience, grasshopper
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/29/politics/29LEAK.html
October 29, 2003

Some investigators have said the F.B.I. is making steady progress in determining who disclosed the information to Mr. Novak, following a paper trail of meetings of Bush administration officials in which Mr. Wilson was discussed. Others have expressed less certainty about the status of the inquiry, suggesting that those who leak information are rarely discovered and even more rarely prosecuted.

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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 09:28 PM
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20. Section C, page 32, two inch column news. n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 10:24 PM
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21. Sorry,Ashcroft too busy w Bong Sellers and Pornographers n/t
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 10:32 PM
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22. I believe it's keeping the 9/11 investigation, the Ken Lay indictment, the
YellowcakeGate investigation, the electronic voting machine inquiry, & the Cheney Energy Task Force investigation, company.
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