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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:12 AM
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The Fallujah massacre (It was our GIs that started the blood feud!)
It was our GIs that started the blood feud in Fallujah!

To remind you, the pictures were posted in DU at the time there was a demonstration about the closing of a school in Fallujah. The crowd started to throw rocks when a GI manning a .50 cal atop a Humvee swung around to avoid a rock, but he had his finger on the trigger firing indiscriminately on the crowd. I believe there were about 75 casualties among the Iraqi civilians. Pictures and news stories (from the British press, who was there) were posted and discussed in DU. The incident happened shortly after Saddam's fall, and during the brief period of euphoria that followed it.

Here are a couple of articles published shortly after the incident that started the blood feud in Fallujah that culminated with Iraqis of all ages dancing in the streets at the sight of the Chinook that was downed by a missile.

It's the Occupation, stupid!

The Fallujah massacre
By Alan Woods


"It has been about 20 years since I was last here and I am just looking forward to looking our boys in the eye and telling them what a great job they have done here." (Donald Rumsfeld, in Baghdad this morning.)

The whole world can now see the real nature of the Anglo-American occupation of Iraq. On Monday at least 13 were killed and an unknown number wounded when US soldiers opened fire on a crowd of unarmed demonstrators who were protesting against the occupation of a local school by the US army. Despite the claims of the Americans that they were fired upon by the demonstrators there is not a shred of evidence to support this.

Last night BBC television carried harrowing pictures of the scene of the massacre in Fallujah, a dust-blown Sunni Muslim trucking town 35 miles west of Baghdad. The BBC's correspondent on the spot was in no doubt that the American soldiers had fired indiscriminately into the crowd, hitting houses in a residential area and killing civilians who were still indoors and had not even participated in the demonstration. By contrast, there was not a single bullet mark on the school and no American soldier had been injured. This was a massacre, pure and simple.

Iraqi doctors and city officials say that 13 people were killed and many more injured. The US military speaks of up to 10 deaths but admits that it is "possible" the figure is 13. The final death toll may be far higher. The report in today's Independent describes the scene of mayhem in the town: "Large patches of congealed blood. Discarded shoes scattered in terror. Angry Iraqi neighbours and wailing relatives, recounting a tale of the random killing of young men whose only crime was to demand that their new, heavily armed masters leave the neighbourhood."

http://www.marxist.com/MiddleEast/fallujah_massacre.html

Published on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 by the Boston Globe
US, Iraqis at Odds on Protesters' Deaths
by Elizabeth Neuffer


FALLUJAH, Iraq - Angry Iraqis accused US troops yesterday of killing at least 13 people when they fired on protesters in this city west of Baghdad in one of the worst clashes between civilians and American forces in the US-led war on Iraq.

A pool of blood stained the sand yesterday near the elementary school where the shooting occurred Monday night, evidence that US bullets found their mark. But little else was clear about the shooting, with residents and US soldiers offering contradictory accounts.

Local officials and neighbors said that US troops shot without provocation at a peaceful demonstration aimed at getting the soldiers to evacuate the school they had been occupying since Friday, so children could return to classes.

''This was random shooting without justification,'' said city councilman Sabah al-Rawi, 41, pointing out bullet holes in the walls of a home near the school.

But US forces said armed demonstrators infiltrated the crowd and threw rocks, chanted pro-Saddam Hussein slogans, and fired AK-47s at soldiers.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0430-09.htm
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:20 AM
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1. what would you expect?
When you have a situation wherein children with guns are walking around where they are not only unwanted but seen as invaders bad things are bound to happen.

Our troops are not trained for this type of duty, especially the reservists being used there. The entire invasion was without plan or goal, other than the obvious goal of enriching certain US corporations.

The longer we remain in Iraq, the longer we show the people of that nation and the world that we havent a clue as to what to do, as long as we continue to demonstrate that this is only about profit and not, despite the smarmy lies of our pResident, about freedom and democracy, people are going to continue to die.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:45 AM
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2. LOL, www.marxist.com........ enough said!
It was Stalin who started the blood feud!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:47 AM
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3. You ignored the Boston Globe story that is included in my post
which proves you didn't read shit, perhaps because it wasn't on Faux!

BTW, when are you enlisting?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:13 AM
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5. deleted by user
Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 08:16 AM by IndianaGreen
:silly:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:15 AM
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6. Marxism.com is the British Trotskyite website
Marxism.com is the British Trotskyite website, and like Trotsky, they are avowed enemies of Stalin or Stalinism.

To lump Trotsky with Stalin is as ignorant as those rightwing Republican that accused Eleanor Roosevelt of being a communist, and Roosevelt of being a Bolshevik.

It was easier for you to revert to the soundbite smear than it was to comment on the stories that were posted on the Fallujah incident that started this blood feud.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:20 AM
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7. just another fine example of sgr2's reknown 'genious'
:)
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 07:49 AM
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4. and what with the lootings, beatings, union busting, home invasion
added to the mass murder inflicted by the bombing of densely populated urban areas, and you've got a population that doesn't feel liberated, they feel violated.

and they are acting out. can't say as i blame them.
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