kyrasdad
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:22 PM
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Feeling strangely optimistic about next November for some reason |
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Maybe it's because our Dem's are really smoking tonight, maybe it's because of the lack of canned responses, I dunno... But all of a sudden I don't feel so concerned we're going to lose next year... As a matter of fact, I'm feeling positively sure we're gonna kick some serious GOP butt...
Why... Nader isn't running, so those "leftie" votes will more than likely siphon into whoever gets the nod. Florida is going to be under the microscope, so the "felon lists" and "early announcements" will be minimal, if not a thing of the past altogether. Gore got about 600,000 more votes than Shrub last time around. Shrub supposedly got around 600 more than Gore in Florida. That was before he had a record to run on. Alot of Dems are still ticked about 2000, and are chomping at the bit to get back at the GOP. Alot of Floridians that got screwed the last time are chomping to get back at the GOP too. Some of the close states from 2000, take Nader out of the equation and what do you get? You get alot of votes against Bush...
Now if we can just manage somehow to get the Senate and Congress back...
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:31 PM
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1. Florida "under a microscope?" |
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Nothing happened to them for the felonies they committed in 2000. Why should they fear doing something similar in 2004?
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:34 PM
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2. I wish I could share your enthsiasm... |
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I just can't. We are dealing with a bunch of dirty stinkin' cheaters here. I will concede that it is ENTIRELY possible that the Dem candidate will win more votes. But as we have already seen, that doesn't get them the White House. This group of jerks will do anything to stay in power so they can continue to rape the environment and to shread the Constitution, even declare martial law and cancel the election if they think they are in that much trouble. As many others do, I fear that things are going to get a lot worse. At this point I'm not even sure that, if they get their way, things will ever get better. If for no other reason, they are a bunch of Revalations End of Times loving zealots that would like nothing better than to bring about the end of the world.
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:37 PM
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May your words prove prophetic. |
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Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 08:40 PM by Ladyhawk
I am going Dem all the way for the first time in my life. The lefter the better. :)
Believe me, some dissatisfied Republicans have noticed what happened and have switched camps. If they haven't they've either been brainwashed, or are as sadistic as the Bush camp.
I feel very scared of November '04. Not just the election itself, but the time that comes after when GOP'ers will be trying to stir up scandals that don't exist and our no-longer-free media will be quick to take the bait.
We have a Bush scandal every week, but you almost never hear about such things on the mainstream media because it's been tampered with. We need these things:
1. A liberal (yes, I said the dirty word) President 2. A liberal Congress 3. A fair news media.
If we don't get the above for the four years of our candidate's presidency, a win may be for naught.
Then there's the Supreme Court to consider.
It's nasty. All three branches of government lean neocon and have the media to back them up. It's the only time in American history this has happened, right? Media is often considered a form of government because the populace can only know what it has been told and our populace is woefully uninformed. Moreover, many of them don't want to know the truth. "Don't tell me...don't tell me...we'll just get into a fight."
Where I live the willfully ignorant rule. "Let me believe what I want to believe...and leave me the hell alone!"
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:37 PM
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Just kidding. I've been cautiously optimistic up until now but seeing the candidates among young people who give a shit is a good thing.
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kyrasdad
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:43 PM
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Nothing did happen to them in 2000... BUT we now know thier tricks, and we are able to be ready for them. I think, in a way, alot of us just took it for granted that Gore was going to get it, and when it didn't we we're caught with our pants down. We know how scheming, conniving, cheating, underhanded, etc., etc., the GOP can be... and lets face it... unlike 2000 we are mad as hell and we aren't going to take it. Maybe that's what we have to do to begin with... get mad, get active, and stay that way.
I'm looking forward to when Bush has to debate whoever gets the nod... Picture that... He goes up against any of these candidates, they're going to run circles around him... there won't be any Gore, "well geez, George, I agree" crapola. It's going to be "George, why did/didn't you (fill in the blank)"
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