Some Moran
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:51 PM
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Clark accusing military of trailing soldiers to check if they're gay... |
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Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 08:51 PM by Some Moran
He pisses me off for going hard-core anti-marijuana though.
How the heck is it worse for soldiers than booze?
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:52 PM
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1. Where did he say he was hardcore anti -pot? |
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:13 PM
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any reference to people who smoke pot was phrased as "drug abuse".
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Tue Nov-04-03 11:03 PM
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20. You are wrong....he was talking about Drug abuse (period) |
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When asked if he have ever smoked...he said I just answered the question. In the military if you are caught smoking or taking any drugs, you're out. He already said that medical marijuana is most likely a good. That we should certainly show compassion to those in pain.
Le't not twist "drug abuse" to mean anything other than what it was meant for.
Should he had said....well I guess a little toke is alright now and then....cause I didn't hear any of the other candidates elaborate on their experience beyond saying yes.
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:55 PM
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2. I never heard the anti-pot thing... |
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...which would make me take a LONG hard look at the General, lol.
I still think he should use "The General" by Dispatch for his campaign song, and if he hates pot...that's unlikely. lol
Later.
RJS
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:56 PM
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how do you "check to be gay"
i mean by the time you enlist, aren't you pretty sure you're gay?
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:58 PM
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4. Clark Said That In The Military Pot Smoking Undermines Performance |
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and military culture frowns on drug abuse.
I'm going to figure that being career military is kind of like being a top athelete... you don't want to compromise your physical or mental performance.
In the military your life and the lives of others are on the line.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:13 PM
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do you really want someone stoned driving a tank?
i mean, we've all seen Kelly's Heroes... and we all try to "stop with the negative waves" in fiction - but the reality? Could you imagine a 4 star general celebrating a bombing success by scoring a dimebag?
Of course, a drunk in an Abrams is probably scarier...
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:15 PM
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7. Not that I disagree, but |
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would you happen to have a link?
Thank you!
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KittyWampus
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:19 PM
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10. Paula Zahn Asked Him 2 Questions |
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First one- about "don't ask don't tell" in military... she asked Clark to be more specific in his answer about why that policy doesn't work in some places and he said that there were military people who'd follow suspected gays and report on them.
Then she asked for comment on potsmoking and Clark made it pretty clear that wasn't what he was about... and that military culture doesn't go for drugs.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:16 PM
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I would think the contention that people shouldn't operate heavy machinery on drugs should be uncontroversial on any board.....
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:18 PM
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a performance inhancing drug.
I wouldn't want my doctor, policeman, teacher, loaded on anything when they were performing their duties.
Actually Clark has stated that people who smoke pot for medicinal reasons should not be treated as criminals.
MzPip :dem:
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KittyWampus
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:23 PM
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11. When I Was In University |
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I got stoned socially alot... and did very well academically... who knows how well I'd have done if I hadn't had that albatross around my neck.
My Dad was right, it turns out... drugs slow you down.
Haven't smoked pot in like 10 years. :+
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:33 PM
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I agree. I took a few tests a bit baked. I did ok but probably would have aced them if I wasn't grooving on the patterns on the ceiling.
My kid summed it up quite well. Pot makes you lazy.
I really don't have a problem with recreational use. Even now. But there is a difference between use and abuse.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:39 PM
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14. Yeah, I don't think doctors should get high while working either.. |
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especially if performing brain surgery.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:27 PM
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12. If Clark is president |
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Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 09:28 PM by jumptheshadow
I don't think we're going to see government agents with attack weapons busting in on medical marijuana users in California.
I think we'll see the dismantling of the horrendous war on drugs.
In fact, I would foresee a shifting of our national priorities away from ideological extremism toward policies that are reasonable, fair and practical.
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Tue Nov-04-03 10:14 PM
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15. Candidates' views on Med Marijuana |
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Tue Nov-04-03 11:01 PM
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19. Cool, Clark gets a B, they give Dean a C |
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DK gets an A+ - - - uh, toke on DK supporters, I guess.
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Tue Nov-04-03 11:12 PM
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Name: Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)
In short: Kerry would stop the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) raids on seriously ill medical marijuana patients as president. Kerry has previously said he favors federal legislation to allow people with cancer, AIDS, and other serious illnesses to have medical marijuana, with their doctors' approval.
What Kerry has done: Kerry recently co-authored a letter asking the Drug Enforcement Administration to approve a proposal from the University of Massachusetts Amherst to manufacture marijuana for FDA-approved medical marijuana research. In the October 20 letter to DEA Administrator Karen Tandy, Kerry criticized the National Institute on Drug Abuse's "unjustified monopoly on the production of marijuana for legitimate medical research." The letter also notes, "Federal law makes clear that the ... bulk manufacture of Schedule I and II substances must be provided `under adequately competitive conditions.' ... The current lack of such competition may well result in the production of lower-quality research-grade marijuana, which in turn jeopardizes important research." >>>>>>
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Tue Nov-04-03 10:49 PM
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16. He swins at least a 1/2 a day |
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In Rolling Stone he commented that he doesn't do smokes either. Take care of your body and your body takes care of you. He still gets the munchies 'cause he loves Cheetos.
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Tue Nov-04-03 10:56 PM
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17. I missed the anti-weed stuff. |
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It is OK to not smoke weed. He has also come out for medical-weed. I think I have read a statement about the Colombia drug war somehow that said that his handling would be differnt. He is also for treatment.
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Clark Can WIN
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Tue Nov-04-03 11:06 PM
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21. Yeah, I think it's probably kind of hard to reach his |
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level of personal acheivement if you're stoned off your ass all the time.
"OK dudes........uh................. I mean troops........................................................................................Let's like............. move out........you know?.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Hey who took my Cheetos man?
he's for treatment, not incarceration and would not prosecute at the federal level on the medical issue. This he has said.
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Clark Can WIN
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Tue Nov-04-03 10:58 PM
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18. first if he says it happens in the military........ I'll bet he knows more |
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than we do about some COs getting a little too interested in the off duty lives of some of the privates privates under their commands.
Second, I know he says he would call of the attack dogs on the medical jane issue and I believe he said somewhere that the whole "war on drugs" thing wasn't working and needed to be scrapped.
I don't have a link but you can look as well as I can.
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