This election day shows a deep divide in the country

[BallaFaseke]

The "liberal" areas are getting more liberal and the "conservative" areas are getting more conservative.

What do you say?

[BBradley]

1. I say Virginia

[Isome]

2. I say: Be sure to thank Smirky the imposter!

He said he's a "uniter not a divider", and then proceeded to do what he always does: the opposite of what he's said.

[jburton]

24. BINGO! n/t

[leftyandproud]

3. I say GOOD

lets get to the extremes on both sides...have a massive debate over the next year, and let the people decide what kind of country we will be

[squanto]

4. I'd say we are geting our clock cleaned tonight

2003
GOVERNER RACES

CA-went repug


TONIGHT
KY-goes repug
MS-going repug

Nov 15
LA-polls show sizable lead for the repug.

And I don't wnat to hear about the county commissioner races out on Long Island either.

GET RID OF MCAULIFFE!!!!!!!!

[WillyBrandt]

5. And the legislatures, mayorships?

NJ - The Dems finally own the State entirely.

Philly - Dem mayor

I agree that Terry must go. But there's far more than meets the eye. It's a mixed bag but we did not do bad.

[squanto]

6. Pwwwwwssssssttttt!!

NJ-Dem state anyway.

Gee, an incumbent Democrat won the mayor's office in an large, urban eastern city?

Wow...what a surprise.

We fell even further behind tonight and we have lost 3 governerships in the last three weeks and it looks like a fourth wil fall in ten days! The ship is taking on water! Pointing that out isn't disloyal, it's friggin' common sense!

WE NEED A CHANGE AT THE TOP!!!!!!!

[WillyBrandt]

7. in odd years, local and legislatures really are the story...

but i will absolutely agree with this:

WE NEED A CHANGE AT THE TOP!!!!!!!

I don't know why the hell Terry is running the DNC. I know he has some real talents--raising money, assembling databases. Make him COO or something.

but he should NOT be directing the party

[aldian159]

11. hmmmm, here's a plan

boot terry and put in clinton, with carville advising?

I gotta lay off the johnny black

[meow2u3]

29. I say put in Carville

The Ragin' Cajun is our most potent weapon against the GOPigs!

[KoKo]

12. MacAuliff needs to GO! Since when does a failed head of a party get a

pass time after time after time. Failure. All he does is collect money, but he doesn't offer leadership. So the Party Powers say "well money is the most important because look at Bush's war chest."

They are missing it! They are missing the "grass roots" and ANGER over Florida! Geeze! they really did want us to "Move On" after the Fla. debaucle.....they think they can sweep it under the rug!! It's too much to bear watching all this. How we've been let down, time after time.

[squanto]

14. He is running the party because of no more than 2 people

Guess which two.

[aquart]

8. Sweetie, the governorships are quicksand under Bush.

They won't get any favors from George. He hasn't any money to give. And he has no problem cutting state throats to give his corporate pals a boost.

The Republican governors will get swamped in George's red ink regime.
Just in time for 2004.

[squanto]

13. And the Titantic is unsinkable

Face reality. Changes need to be made.

[BallaFaseke]

9. I agree with your assessment

even the repukes in NJ make Dems in other states look right wing.

McAuliffe should be gone but prolly wont unless Clinton says so.

[Sean Reynolds]

10. Salt Lake City stayed Democratic.

re-elected probably one of the most liberal mayors in the nation. It's not a large, urban eastern city.

[squanto]

15. Okaaaaay...Was he LDS by any chance?

[Sean Reynolds]

16. Anderson is Atheist, Pignanelli (the guy runnin' against him) Catholic

The Atheist beats out the Catholic.

[squanto]

17. You forgot to mention it was a non-partisan election in SLC

Just a little oversight on your part I take it.

[Sean Reynolds]

18. What does that have to do with anything?

Anderson is known for being a Socialist Democrat, while Pignanelli was a Democrat State Rep so it isn't like the voters had no clue about what party these two men belonged to.

[squanto]

20. Look, you need to look below the surface a little bit

http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Oct/10312003/utah/107030.asp

The mayor, who insists he is not divisive, says Pignanelli is using the Mormon card, a claim he also made against Reid four years ago.

"I've heard Frank talk about religion a number of times," Anderson says, referring to how Pignanelli mentions that one of his twin sons is named for a Mormon pioneer.

At the same time, Anderson notes that he has "a very long and distinguished Mormon lineage" although he no longer practices the religion.

[Sean Reynolds]

22. So? Your point?

Don't candidates of ALL parties reach out to a big bulk of the population? Don't tell me about MY city politics, alright? Anderson LOST the LDS vote, in fact 85% of the LDS population voted for Pignanelli and HE STILL LOST the election. So does that not speak volumes?

[JanMichael]

26. WTF Batman?! How do we know he's an Atheist?

And in Salt Lake City too!?

Unfreakin'believable!

[Scott Lee]

25. Utah Democrats are actually Republicans anywhere else

As a native of Utah (just moved to NM) I can tell you that Utah hasn't had a viable, REAL Democratic spirit in it since the defeat of Ted Moss by Orrin the Hatch. Anderson is a nice guy, don't get me wrong - but by a national standard he is no real democrat. No real democrat could get elected so much as dog catcher in Utah.

[markses]

23. I think it's a split decision

Yes, the Dems (I am NOT a registered democrat, and plan not to be) lost a couple of governorships - then again, we picked up a bunch during the supposed catastrophe of 2002, including Pennsylvania, a state that is very swing, and in which we're doing very well statewide tonight.

If your beef is against Terry Mick, you have no enemies here. the guy is a corporate flack supremo, and a smarmy shitbird, in this urban Northeasterners opinion.

At the same time, I wonder whether you might not behave with a bit less rudeness and a bit more nuance, if only for the sake of your (already damaged - in this urban Northeasterner's opinion) credibility.

There's no need to be a schmuck to get your thoughts across, dizzawg.

[Upfront]

27. Have To Agree

We need to go new directions.

[tedoll78]

19. How I Interpret It:

It looks like we're resuming our 50-50 scenario from 2000. The Red states elect Reds, while the Blue states elect Blues.. with Gray Davis-based abberations thrown-in.

[tom_paine]

21. United We Stand -- like in 1861

[Kitsune]

28. Maybe we should let 'em go this time *nt*