poppabear36
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Wed Nov-05-03 03:17 AM
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Was Zell Miller a DLC plot? |
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Was this the DLC sending a warning shot over our bow, basically saying that we better bring the party right of center or they were going to take their matches and kerosene and send the whole shithouse up in flames - basically lying down for Bush in 2004?
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Wed Nov-05-03 03:19 AM
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is a possibility. They might be trying to drag the party further to the right.
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Wed Nov-05-03 03:25 AM
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2. No...Zell has always been a Republican |
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Look at his record.
It is shit like this that makes me wonder if the Democrats even care. I can't imagine Republicans standing for this shit.
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Wed Nov-05-03 03:26 AM
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then this site just sent him a big "F-U" by putting him on the top 10 list.
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Wed Nov-05-03 03:29 AM
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4. No, but I'm pretty sure it was a warning shot from the RNC. |
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Zell probably went to Ed Gillespie and said he was considering switching parties, and Ed probably told him, "Zell, you'd do us a lot more good staying in the Democratic Party and telling them how self-loathing you are."
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Wed Nov-05-03 03:38 AM
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I find it a lot easier to believe the devious hands of Republicans behind this. But the scarier proposition to me is that there is a faction of our party who is pushing him out there, who don't like where WE are pushing the party. And that maybe they would rather see Bush reelected than see a candidate emerge who doesn't need them.
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:12 AM
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10. I think it's safe to say... |
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that there were/are Democrats like Zell Miller who have been voting Republican for sometime now. They're not going to vote Democratic so their votes don't mean anything to us. The Dem party should just let them go so they stop watering down the party platform.
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Wed Nov-05-03 03:44 AM
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6. maybe money over idealogy |
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Wed Nov-05-03 05:02 AM
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I predict most of their leadership will go Bush if we nominate Dean. That is why I want to nominate Dean. Let them marginalize themselves.
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Wed Nov-05-03 06:45 AM
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8. What an ignorant thing to ask |
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find out about Zell Miller's history before you post this kind of crap. You're afraid of the "boogie-DLC" for some reason no doubt caused by ignorance. Just keep in mind that when this exact thing happens a year from now, it's going to be your fault and people like you.
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Wed Nov-05-03 07:07 AM
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If you had actually watched him on Meet The Russert, it's no such ploy. The man just makes no sense, he's senile and deluded and biased and contradicts himself left and right. Basically he's stuck in a La-La Land where it's forever 1980.
Russert just played him against the Republican critique/stereotype of Southern Old Democrats- out of touch with the present, flip-flopping, a pork barreller, still with some internalized racism, and incoherent on social/'morality' issues. Zell bopped around and managed to fit almost every bit of it voluntarily, with no sense at all that it might be a trap. You could read Russert's expression so easily- 'If I could give him a second shovel, he'd dig himself in so much deeper' and 'Sheesh, this guy makes shooting fish in a barrel seem challenging by comparison'.
It was patently embarrassing for Miller. The old joke is that interviews are contests where the politician is trying to take advantage of the journalist's gullibility and the journalist is trying to take advantage of the politician's garroulousness. Well, this one was so one sided it that Russert didn't have the heart to try any of the hard punches after about half way through. Miller was landing all the punches on himself.
And no, he wasn't sent on a mission. He just got senile and unadaptable with age, and like a lot of elderly folk who can't make sense of the new stuff anymore has become rejectionist/living in the past.
And if you ask Georgia Democrats, they are heavily DLC but don't consider him a Democrat. To them he's the senile, occasionally psychotic uncle that you keep/suffer in the house because no responsible nursing home will take him in.
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