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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:05 PM
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From Faun Otter:

My good friend Jim March reported from a public meeting in CA yesterday that :
"November the 3rd, the California Secretary of State's "certification panel" met to discuss statewide certification for Diebold's new TSX touchscreen system. This had been delayed twice since the 9th of October; back on the 9th, we were told the hangup was over Federal cert paperwork but this was supposedly routine.

Today, the panel met in public...but the meeting was quite short.

The panel, chaired by UnderSecretary of State Mark Kyle, announced that Diebold's certification was on hold pending a formal investigation into possible use of uncertified products in elections. After a bit of stunned silence, public comments were allowed. I spent my two minutes saying, basically, that if the issue at hand wasn't WinCE, it should be, and gave a quick rundown of the technical issue. I referenced the two previous memos I had submitted to the SecState's office.

Anyways. So far as Kim Alexander was aware, this is the first genuine official investigation into Diebold misconduct. The Diebold reps looked *grim*. Afterwards, I went out of my way to thank them for the interesting reading in the EMails.

They looked more grim.

I was also able to buttonhole a couple of the cert panel members, Mark Kyle and...shoot, wazzizname, the balding dude. Anyways. I asked them point-blank off the record if it was WinCE being looked at, and they claimed it wasn't. Well that leaves screwy terminal application code, funky GEMS revisions, use of MS-Access as a hack tool or even the use of cellphone modems reported in Marin and elsewhere to upload end-of-day tallies. It hardly matters. They pull one string, Diebold will unravel.

Hit your congressman today with a request to support the Holt Voter Confidence bill in view of this ongoing Diebold scandal.

Lots of news updates at:
http://why-war.com/features/2003/10/diebold.html#update


This is just starting to get into the news media. Push it along - the press don't like to deal with things that are not interesting to the public, or so they tell us. I don't see how a major Republican vote machine company being investigated for vote fraud on election day could not be interesting news. The proles like to see films of car wrecks; well here is one of the worst political car wrecks in history.

I don't want to see President Howe Buggers* "re" -elected by ballot tampering robots built by hard right radicals.

Faun

Wired reports the Diebold melt down:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61068,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5

Australians show how it should be done:
http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,61045,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

* Sorry - that is of course a typo. I meant to say President He grew bogus.
No, that should have been President Hug Gore's web
or was it President Bug sewer hog
or President Egg Bus Whore? My dyslexia is playing me up again or perhaps it is just an aversion to typing George W Bush after the word President.
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:09 PM
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1. Thanks for the laugh
I rather enjoy the dyslexic outbursts. Especially Bug Sewer Hog.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:45 PM
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5. Faun is a treasure.
Very funny even when discussing something so serious.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:10 PM
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2. Heard this news a couple of days ago, but not in much detail.
My humble thanks to the BBV activists.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:17 PM
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3. Thanks for the update and the laughs!
Sent Nancy Pelosi the great article from Christian Science Monitor yesterday and urged her to sponsor Rush Holt's bill, H.2239.

It won't matter who wins the Democratic nomination, if the GOP is in control of electronic voting and refuses to make these machines tamperproof.

We Floridians know the Rethugs will do almost anything to win an election.
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:26 PM
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4. Why did you qualify this sentence?
We Floridians know the Rethugs will do almost anything to win an election

Take out the "almost" and you have it just right.

:hi:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:58 PM
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7. heheh...
Almost isn't necessary anymore. Jeb WILL do anything.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:32 PM
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6. Big Kick
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:10 PM
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8. I get a
:kick: out of you
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:49 PM
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9. Send this off to Nancy Pelosi's attention, too.
The more, the merrier.

sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

I wrote to her today regarding Rush Holt's "Paper Trail" bill:

Dear Ms. Pelosi,

These lines are to ask your support for amending HR 2239 -- the "Paper Trail" voting bill. It was proposed by Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) and has more than two dozen co-sponsors.

While I completely favor creating a printed record of each citizen's vote, the bill in its current form fails to create a truly verifiable paper record of votes cast on electronic systems. Creating a valid paper record is why the legislation was proposed and to be effective needs some modification.

Can you recommend that the bill be modified so that the "paper trail" includes all the information needed by voters and election officials to ensure that the voter's vote has accurately been tabulated. Can the bill be modified so that the created paper trail meets the legal standards for recount?

To best modify the bill, the advice of neutral experts on the subject of electronic voting from academia, rather than from the companies who make the machines, would be most appreciated.

Thank you for your kind attention and your service to our great nation.

Sincerely, (from your humble servant and narrator,

Octafish)
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:12 PM
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10. Thanks for the report Faun,
I would have given anything for a picture of the Diebold rep's face.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
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