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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:51 PM
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Anyone watching Inside Politics.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 04:01 PM by blm
Judy Woodruff isn't letting go of the flag issue.

She asked Joe Lockhart about it who said he doesn't think Dean handled it well. That indicates to me that Clinton isn't thrilled. Lockhart is still close with Clinton and still acts as his spokesman when called.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:55 PM
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1. Oh, I get it ...
dean gets bashed by Lockhart, who's friends with Clinton, who wants Clark in office so he can have a puppet leader while he and Hillary run the country.

And dean, the uber-man that he is, is the only man alive who can stop this evil plot. But how can they stop him? Yes! Use the flag issue! Genius! Pure evil genius!
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:17 PM
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15. Just curious
what are you talking about?
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:39 PM
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21. LOL
He doesn't know. Any way he can spew hate towards Dean, he'll do it, even if it makes no sense whatsoever.

He's a Clarkette, what do you expect.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:54 PM
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28. "He's a Clarkette"
Well I don't know about that... but I'm a Clark supporter
Doh!
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:55 PM
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2. The English language...
...lacks an adjective to describe just how uninterested I am in what Lockhart thinks, or whether Clinton is thrilled.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:02 PM
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5. Dean cares what Clinton thinks.
He's always talking about how he and Clinton are the only people talking about race the right way, and that the tax rates were so great under Clinton that we shouldn't be afraid to go back to that tax code.

There are one or two other examples which are slipping my mind (didn't he say the Medicare proposal he favored was the one Clinton passed?). However, I get the impression that Dean does care what Clinton thinks, and has been trying to embrace Clinton.

Therefore, if Lockhart is criticizing this, and if we can presume that Lockhart and Clinton have similar views (regardless of whether they've communicated them to each other), then this is significatn.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:14 PM
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13. Especially since
many Dem voters, and many minority voters, very much care what Clinton has to say.
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J B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:58 PM
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3. We still care what Clinton thinks?
No hope for the Democrats now. Pity.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:00 PM
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4. blm, don't tell me you care what Judy Woodruff thinks?
but other than that, hiya! insert wave here.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:03 PM
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6. I HATE Judy Woodruff. I think she's harping it
to keep the Dems divided. Her motives are clear to me. I think she shouldn't be building this into something bigger. I think he misspoke and can't admit it.
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chromotone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:08 PM
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7. Judy Woodruff is a whore "par excellence..."
I once read an article about media criticism where she said, "reporters only report what is, not what should be..." and I thought, “Yeah, right Judy. You and your ilk have been reporting "what should be" since W announced his candidacy.”

This latest regurgitation only proves that...
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:11 PM
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8. I heard a rumor
but don't quote me on this, that she in fact, is dead, and is simply a talking corpse who wears more makeup than ann coulter.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:12 PM
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10. Judy Woodruff is the Crypt Keeper?
ROTF.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:13 PM
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11. Judy Woodruff looks too thin and very unhealthy --
is she anorexic or what.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:20 PM
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18. well
and this is only my educated guess. I believe she and Ann C went to the same "finishing" school that taught that looking like a starved prostitute is "attractive." However, I don't know if Judy took the same class Ann did, which was "making a woman look like she was a main character in Priscilla Queen of the Desert."
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:48 PM
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27. Stop, you're killing me, NP
"starved prostitute"

ROFLMAO
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:19 PM
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16. Lets pass a hat and buy her a turtleneck.
I know its childish and cruel, but she is whoring for this cruel administration every chance that she gets.
:evilgrin:
Cantstanzher!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:12 PM
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9. ah,ok! For a second I thought I was in Bizarro World
then I remember who the President is, and realize - fuck, i AM in Bizarro World.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:21 PM
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19. unbelievable...she's about to do ANOTHER story on Dean....
about his fundraising. Out of an hour long show, she is making 3/4 of it about Dean.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:47 PM
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26. She doesn't- it's about what Joe L. thinks
at least that's what I read.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:14 PM
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12. Clinton doesn't like this sort of thing.
He has been trying to get these guys to play nice for a few weeks. He doesn't want to argue over stuff like this. Begala and Carville feel the same way.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:16 PM
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14. I can well imagine
it only hurts us.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:20 PM
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17. Joe said focus on economic issues
I don't think he gets it either. First, Republicans think their economics are better. They hate liberal handouts and socialist programs. Talking to them about economics means changing the entire disucssion, not just offering more programs that they hate in the first place. Second, if we don't actually talk about the racism that the Flag represents, then we've already conceded 100 years of standing for racial equality. You can't presume one part of the country is more racist than another, you can't just tell people to stop being racist and think they will, and you can't say telling people to stop being racist is talking about racism.

There's another thread asking whether Democrats and Republicans have anything in common anymore. Looking at what's been happening around here the last few weeks, I'd say a whole hell of alot more than I ever thought.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:32 PM
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20. Dean should be denied the support of the Dem machine
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 04:35 PM by billbuckhead
out of respect for minorities. I predict this isn't the last racial gaffe from this bumbling stumbling NRA appeaser. And don't forget his tactful characterization of Congressmen as cockroaches. Dean isn't a class act and the party owes it to long time supporters to diss this loose cannon of a Kulturwarrior.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:46 PM
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24. I'm not running for Democratic Presidential candidate.
And I never called spinDoctor Dean a cockroach or even a republican.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:46 PM
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25. He's not running for President
Big difference.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:45 PM
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23. AA, class not race
He already threw that little gem out there and nobody cares. And how about any kindergarten teacher knows who the criminals are going to be. Yeah some people think that, nice little sound byte, but when you think about it... whoa! And people on welfare have no dignity. I don't even recognize my party today and the crap I'm hearing on TV from my 'fellow' Democrats isn't helping.
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