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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:51 PM
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A Thought On Draft Deferments
Its no news to anyone that for as long as we had the draft, and right up until the day it expired, that the sons of the rich got deferments and the sons of the poor did not. There is no reason to think that the exemption's won't be the same if a draft is reinstated. Who gains and how in the relationships that allowed this aren't important, but what is important is that the nation got nothing in return for the loss of this service.

Knowing that nothing is going to change in the future why not be open about it. Why not let the Federal Government just go ahead and sell exemptions? I would think one should be worth upwards of $5~10,000 a year for an otherwise healthy male without any good reason not to be out there serving his country. If poor people couldn't pay it, well, what the hell, they were gonna be drafted anyway. The rich would would have found a way to buy a deferment under the table can now simply write a check.

Thom
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:52 PM
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1. That's what they did during the Civil War
It lead to riots in New York City.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:20 PM
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4. and in the Confederacy
which had the draft before the Union did. They had an exemption for anyone who owned more than 20 "negroes".

Conscription did not work terribly well in the Civil War either. See:
http://www.civilwarhome.com/conscription.htm

And yes, draft riots are a very possibility if conscription is enacted.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:11 PM
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2. Might as well be upfront about it, and if there are protests in poor areas

just put em under 24 shoot to kill lockdown like they do in Palestine and Iraq.

But 5-10 thousand is too cheap.

Make it around 50 thousand a year.

Congress members would be able to afford that.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:17 PM
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3. Because the Busheviks are all about the ILLUSION...THE LIE
Hell, if they Busheviks had wanted to be honest about it, they would have just sent the ex-spook Bushevik Private Army into the White House and simply executed the Clintons and given the Hitler in 1933 speech to the cowed Reichstag. For dramatic measure they could have shot Wellstone and Byrd in the head right in front of their terrified colleagues to make a point.

But the didn't. Like the Caesers they realize that to capture the prize that is the Old American Republic undamaged, they must maintain the Core Identity of Amerikans, which is the same as the Core Identity of the Romans under the Republic...

Which is...
That their people shall NEVER bow to a King

But the Romans bowed to a King under another name, so too are the Imperial Subjects of Amerika bowing.

For the same reason, the fiction of the egalitarian draft will also have to be maintained, though a grotesque lie it shall be.

Many grotesque lies popping up under the rule of Emperor Bunnpants*, eh?
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Trek234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:41 PM
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5. Congress members kids might go in
MAYBE. Just to say "Oh look! It really is the rich going in now!"

Think they'll see action? HELL NO. They'll have a nice little desk job in a bunker state side.

But the masses will say "oh it's fair now".
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ToTheBorgCube Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:29 PM
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6. Here's a problem.
What about the poor individuals in college, or that qualified for other exemptions? While attending college back in the Vietnam era may have correlated very strongly with being rich, it really isn't anywhere near so strong a correlation now. Take the state university systems: You have hundreds of thousands of lower class individuals in those colleges, and they would qualify for exemptions under the old rules; under your proposed system, they wouldn't. Is that fair?
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