Wouldn't a more honorable way to win the south, be to run a military man?

[billbuckhead]

One truth about the south is that it sends many of it's sons to the military, perhaps a greater percentage than other areas of the nation.Often it has been said that the most successful example of integration is the military. Surely appealing to this successful model is more honorable and optimistic than putting divisive symbols on pickup trucks.

[michaelbmoore]

1. It's hard. . .

to argue with that.

Cheers

Mike

;)

[Avalux]

2. Perhaps

a military man from the south? Sounds good to me.:bounce:

[Sick of Bullshit]

3. Yeah, they just love military folks down there

like McCain in South Carolina and Cleland in Jaw-ja.

[Upfront]

4. Ok By Me

if he can beat the Good Dr., which I doubt.

[childslibrarian]

7. How about with the good doctor?

The doctor and the general--covers everything that could go wrong!
Talk about security issues!

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

5. Don't forget Al Gore

He served honorably in Vietnam while Bush was AWOL. Nobody in the solid south seemed to give a shit about that.

I think Clark would make a very strong candidate by the way...

[blm]

12. Big difference. McCain didn't know Bush's AWOL story at the time.

Bush will not be able to escape it in the general election this time. Especially after his flyboy stunt.

There was peace back in 2000, and noone paid much attention to military matters as much as they will in 2004.

[dsc]

13. I find that very hard to believe

The only big story on this ran in April I will admit but this was an open secret in Texas and among some Texan military figures. Surely one of them filled in McCain.

[RichM]

6. Surely not caving in to the South's obsessive fetish with the military is

more honorable and optimistic than submitting to it.

[billbuckhead]

9. "South's obsessive fetish, "Winning more hearts and minds aren't we?

One reason is that it's always been a way up for poor people and middleclass people of all races.

[Scott Lee]

10. Your Future in The Army - a Transfer Tube

One reason is that it's always been a way up for poor people and middleclass people of all races.

Yeah. Right up to a "transfer tube" after making the ultimate sacrifice for some multinational or a president's ego.

[AlinPA]

8. 1. Do we have any chance in any southern states? 2. What if

Colin Powell is #2 on the repub. ticket?

[RetroLounge]

11. More honorable than what?

"more honorable and optimistic than putting divisive symbols on pickup trucks"

Are you comparing if running Clark is more honorable than a guy in the south puttin a flag on his pickup?

Holy Shit!

Apples and Oranges type bashing...

[billbuckhead]

16. I'm just talking generalities. What's the bashing?

Kerry's a military guy as well.

[leftofthedial]

14. I've been one of the few South defenders in all these threads

But Southern "patriotism" is largely of the shallow, jingoistic, Ronnie Raygun, Lee Greenwood, neocon/GOP variety. They just buy whatever Gingrich et al are selling, and have done for a generation now.

That's why they dump real vets and support Chickenhawks.

[quaker bill]

24. Exactly

I am not sure it would give us any advantage. It might, but only if Iraq gets worse and the military man has some much better ideas.

You are probably better off locking down the more cosmopolitan areas than competing out in the sticks.

[Frangible]

15. The dems have a lot of true veterans running

Who did their time in the trenches as a common man, yet the south still as a whole votes for GOP candidates.

Here's a hint from Al Gore, who did his time in Vietnam: stop pushing gun control and you can get their votes.

[CWebster]

17. Military is all about guns and weapons

It is a good place to play with guns, right Bill from Buckhead? that is where we legitimatize our killing, after all those weapons are for hunting deer.

[SomeAreSalt]

18. Maybe the right one

If he makes remarks like Clark and suggests they join the Army to play with guns it may not go over well with those that have served and now just want to play with their own guns.

[Waistdeep]

20. I've only heard Clark make that remark

in reference to assault weapons.

[SomeAreSalt]

21. define assualt weapon

Most if not all semi-auto guns could be defined as "assualt weapons" under the fuzzy ban implemented in the early 90's.

[dfong63]

19. not if he's a war criminal

[leesa]

22. God I wish Americans would grow up. Still playing with guns and toys

and being the big swaggering bullies. Put the military folks in the DOD where they belong!

[quaker bill]

23. If it works

There is no predicting that it would. Retired Military man against our 'valorous' Commander in Thief. Shrubbie* knows how to wrap himself in the flag just fine.

I am not sure a military man gives us all that much advantage.