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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:07 PM
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If Only I Had Been Gwen Ifill Tonight, LOL !!! --- Aaaarrgghhh !!!
From: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/july-dec03/abortion_11-05.html

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GWEN IFILL: Do you think, Dr. Hillard, that if this law is allowed to stand it will be the first brick in the wall or brick out of the wall in Roe V. Wade?

DR. PAULA HILLARD: I think that that's very clearly the intent of those who bring this law to us.

GWEN IFILL: Dr. Cook, is that the intent?

DR. CURTIS COOK: No, not at all. Dr. Hillard is correct there's no specific language or gestational age. This is trying merely to prohibit a certain type of heinous procedure from being performed. And that's all it's intended to do. I do think we need to correct the misinformation that's put out there oftentimes.

This is done not on just emergency basis, not just abnormal babies or sick mothers. These are done predominantly on healthy babies and healthy mothers. Every medical expert that has testified has said the same thing. Even pro abortion advocates including the national director of abortion providers has admitted that. These are done predominantly on healthy mothers and healthy babies.

GWEN IFILL: If the law is overturned by the Supreme Court, if the court is consistent and acts the way it did in the Nebraska case last year, what will have been the purpose of getting this passed and signed?

DR. CURTIS COOK: Well, the law differs significantly from the Nebraska law in two areas. First of all it differs specifically in the way that it defines the procedure narrowly, which is different than the previous decision that went forward in the Sternberg decision. Also it comes forward with increasing support for medical information showing that there is no protection of a woman's health and may put her health at risk.

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And what I wish Gwen would have said at this point, is, "Dr. Cook, so do I take you to mean the 'partial-birth abotion' is THE ONLY procedure you oppose, and that if Roe v. Wade were to be attacked in total, you'd find yourself supporting a pro-choice position????

Damn Gwen, what an opportunity!!!

:argh:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:11 PM
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1. There is no such medical procedure as "partial-birth abortion."
n/t
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:21 PM
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3. You're absolutely right
It's a contrived phrase, invented by anti-abortionists, purposely designed to inflame the listener and stir the abortion pot.
http://www.aclu.org/ReproductiveRights/ReproductiveRights.cfm?ID=4998&c=148

My problem with the pro-birth people, in addition to forcing their so-called morals up other people's reproductive tracts, is their insistence on skewing the facts and/or making it up as they go along.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:16 PM
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2. She didn't challenge that crap about it being done mostly on
healthy mothers/babies.
I saw the testimony several years ago when it was up then....middle class women in danger of losing their lives and the loss to their families.

That statement made tonight was incorrect --deliberately incorrect--and Ifill let this shit get away with it....
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:32 PM
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4. Yes !!! --- This Idiot Served The Ball Right In The 'Kick His Ass' Zone !!
When he 'demurs' and says the standard, "Oh no' This is NOT an attempt to overturn Roe v. Wade, after all, I AM A DOCTOR!"

Gwen should have shoved that remark up every orifice north of the pores in his rack and bunioned feet!!!

Me as Gwen: So... pardon me Doctor, are you saying that other than 'Late Term, or if you prefer, 'Partial Birth Abortion', you are here as a supporter of a woman's right to choose, and are a supporter of Roe v. Wade???

WHAT SAY YOU... Doctor???

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yankeeinlouisiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:34 PM
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5. Dr. Paula Hillard
was rather weak, unfortunately. She may have not done the procedure in her practice, but she could have given examples that such a procedure may be necessary if x,y or z occurs, or some such statement.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:03 AM
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9. Ifill shaking her head...
yesterday in a post by someone watching newswhore said that Ifill was sending subliminal messages or something when she was questioning a soldier about some damn thing....she inadvertantly shook her head to encourage the guy to deny something that could reflect badly on geebush inc...(??)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:05 PM
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6. i worked with a guy
those wife needed this done but she had to wait almost a month with a fetus that was going to die before birth and it did. then they forced "labor" and the fetus was "born" dead. everyday i had to see my buddy tearing himself apart over his wifes pain and suffering. how dare they sit in judgement of what should be the husband and wife`s decision to end their agony and bury their child with dignity. fuck those assholes- may they rot in hell
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:17 PM
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7. Yep, Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself !!!
'fuck those assholes- may they rot in hell'

And they just might!!!

:grr:
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:48 PM
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8. I was pregnant
along with another lady and we went to OB appt's together but I didn't know her baby was dead until she told me that Dr's were waiting until she reached a certain amount of weeks and they were going to induce labor. I never understood why they couldn't go ahead and induce labor to shorten her grief. I was so torn up to know her baby was dead but she still had to carry it.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:54 AM
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10. Thank You Candy... There Are MANY Who Need To Hear This !!!
:shrug::wtf::shrug:

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:08 AM
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11. It is not true that the proceedure is predominately perfomed...
on healthy women and healthy babies, and no, not every medical expert would agree with that claim at all.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:20 AM
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12. Not simply "not true..."
It's a BALD-FACED lie that passed through the airwaves UNCHALLENGED!!!
:mad: :mad: :argh: :mad :mad:
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