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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:12 PM
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Hannity Sounds Like He's Trying to Blackmail Sen. Jay Rockefeller
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 03:22 PM by CO Liberal
He's claiming that Sen. Jay Rockefeller authorized the writing of that memo. And that he has tried time and time again to get Rockefeller to appear on his show and Rockefeller has refused.

I say they need to launch a full investigation of Sean Hannity.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:13 PM
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1. They are starting to go off the deep end
Lord
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:15 PM
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2. The facist is smearing Rockefeller!!! Jay should sue the....
CRAP out of this "FUKNOW THE REST"!
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:16 PM
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3. What do you know, Mike Ruppert predicted this almost a year ago
Ruppert predicted that Rockefeller would be the one to take down Bush, and here is Bush's lap-dog trying to preempt what's going to be a huge embarrassment for Bush.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:30 PM
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12. question for you
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 03:32 PM by 56kid
Do you have a link to the Ruppert prediction?
I've been following Rockefeller because I think he is something of a sleeper quotient in the sense that he is a Rockefeller and I suspect has more power than simply being a Senator.I have been thinking that he could indeed be very dangerous for Bush. So I would be interested in reading someone else's take on this.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:01 PM
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19. I don't have the exact link
and can't look right now ;), but Ruppert's site is
http://www.fromthewilderness.com

He has a free articles section. I think the mention was in one called "Beyond Bush, Part I".
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:34 PM
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26. thanks
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 05:45 PM by 56kid
I'm looking at it now. Looks like interesting reading.
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:16 PM
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4. Rockefeller needs to come out ASAP and tell the repukes
they will not win this war of lies. I am so tired of our Dem "leaders" letting them win the war of lies.
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livinontheedge Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:17 PM
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5. Hannity claims Rockefeller asked for the memo to be written.
If true, Rockefeller would give the republicans a reason not to cooperate with the select intelligence committee. I know. I know. The republicans weren't cooperating now. But, they can use this memo as cover. I may be wrong about that but I think the republicans are going to make a huge stink over this. And they have the ability to pull a lot of media behind them.
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:18 PM
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6. Receiving stolen property sean?
Rockefeller said that whoever gave him that internal memo had to have taken from a staffers computor or the wastebasket. Having stolen federal property from a federal site would make the thief guilty of federal crime AND NutJob would be guilty of receiving stolen property. Would faxing from DC to NY be interstate crime as well?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:21 PM
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8. I Believe That WOULD Be a Federal Crime
Transporting stolen government property across state lines, right?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:30 PM
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11. Look at this thread from Rockefeller's appearance on the Senate Floor
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=653695

I remember he said it was his staffers who wrote the memo... seeming to deny the accusation that he was the instigator for its been written.
He also said that what was important was not the memo but the fact that the MAJORITY WAS HAVING ACCESS TO THE MINORITY INTERNAL DOCUMENTS!!!!
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:20 PM
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7. expect a column by our local wv rw pundits on this subject
they get their marching orders from talk radio and the daily mail will start bashing him like they do byrd
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jessiepowers Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:22 PM
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9. The Democratic Senators
Need to admit that they did this. There is no shame. Bush and his crew must be destroyed by any and all means available.

Who cares if they planned on using 'classified' material? Classification is simply a cover for lies.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:26 PM
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10. Welcome to DU, Jessie!
:-)
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:32 PM
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13. At least WE would use "true" classified info...
It's become pretty obvious that they just make theirs up at will...then lie about it...then "out" under-cover CIA agents who try to find out the truth. I'd say what THEY'VE pulled is far worse than ANYTHING Jay Rockefeller or his staff could have done...

Jay Rockefeller needs to take 'em to the hole on this one!:mad:

B-)

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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:35 PM
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15. And the memo's hardly that bad to begin with
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:50 PM
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17. EXACTLY
The GOP has been put on notice by the Dems and this memo. Either stop the bullshit of protecting Bush from his lies to the American people or we will do this investigation by ourselves. And believe me the GOP has got the message. Hence the crocodile tears.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:58 PM
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18. Using classified information is a crime
Frankly, I think the wingers are going to try and hang this around Hillary's neck.

I just read an article recently (David Corn?) that said Robert's was going to be issuing a blistering report abour pre-war intelligence and was hanging all the Iraq problems on the CIA. Roberts wants no part of finding out whether Bush exaggerated the info to push for war. I think this memo situation is just a smokescreen on this report.

That said, if the dems are planning to use classified info against the pubbies, that would indeed be a crime and not something I would support as much as it sickens me everytime I remember that Bush is in the White House.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:12 PM
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20. They are NOT planning to use classified material.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 04:13 PM by NRK
If they were, that would be a crime. Here is the memo:

The memo as reported by Hannity reads as follows:

"We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:

"1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard.

"For example, in addition to the President's State of the Union speech, the chairman has agreed to look at the activities of the office of the Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department.

"The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and cosigns our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority.

"2) Assiduously prepare Democratic 'additional views' to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it.

"In that regard we may have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims. We will contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry.

"The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an Independent Commission (i.e., the Corzine Amendment.)

"3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation of the administration's use of intelligence at any time. But we can only do so once.

"The best time to do so will probably be next year, either:

"A) After we have already released our additional views on an interim report, thereby providing as many as three opportunities to make our case to the public. Additional views on the interim report (1). The announcement of our independent investigation (2). And (3) additional views on the final investigation. Or:

"B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue, we would attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the use of intelligence.

"In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter footdragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman. We have independently submitted written requests to the DOD and we are preparing further independent requests for information.

"SUMMARY: Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet we have an important role to play in revealing the misleading, if not flagrantly dishonest, methods and motives of senior administration officials who made the case for unilateral preemptive war.

"The approach outlined above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives."

The revelation that Democrats are using the intelligence committee to conduct opposition research for the coming presidential campaign demands an investigation by the Senate Ethics Committee, Hannity said.
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We're not doing it for the presidential campaign, we're doing it to prove that Bush lied to the American people about the reasons for war--which meets the "high crimes" requirement for impeachment.

There is nothing unethical or illegal here.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:19 PM
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21. The Only Thing Unethical or Illegal Here is Sean Hannity
HE needs to be fully investigated.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:54 PM
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24. The repugs are yelling
that the dems are politicizing the war. There is nothing in that memo that justifies this bogus claim. These are legitimate questions that must be investigated into the high crimes and misdemeanors of this misadministration.

Besides the war was politicized before it even begun when Andy Card let slip that you don't introduce your new produce line in August.


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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:45 PM
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32. "Nothing unethical or illegal here"
It's an absolutely pragmatic, conscientious, intelligent plan. But do you really think Republicannibals can even recognize ethical or legal anymore?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:56 PM
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35. Welcome Jessie.
Why is this internal memo such a big deal. Someone outed a CIA agent I seem to recall,where's the outrage on talkradio.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:33 PM
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14. You know what I don't understand?
The wingnuts don't seem to understand that this is actually a BAD issue for them, the memo very clearly says that they are launching an investigation into the President's misleading statements. Everytime the press reports on the memo, they talk about the President's misleading statements. How does Hannitty interpret that as a positive for his argument.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:43 PM
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16. "The Memo WE Found In The Intelligence Committee"
Hannity just used these words to refer to the memo. He pretty much confessed that he was involved in its theft.

Time to investigate Sean Hannity.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:55 PM
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25. Oops Never mind
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 04:55 PM by DoYouEverWonder


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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:43 PM
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22. Hannity Claims The Memo Is "Proof"......
...that the Democrats are trying to use the war for political purposes. But isn't that exactly what the GOP and the right wing has been doing since 9/11???
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:52 PM
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23. You bet
GUILTY AS CHARGED
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:39 PM
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27. Mark Levin Has Agreed to Defend Hannity....
...if he's called before the Senate.

I hope they both gets their asses handed to them.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:41 PM
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28. Hannity is small fry, an ant
he is not in Rockefeller's league, by a country mile. This is to be scoffed at. Rockefeller is old money and power, big time.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:05 PM
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29. Rockefeller and
all Democrats need to tell Hannity to go to hell! Boycott the republican mouthpieces.

You're right, they need to start investigating! All of them. Start digging for dirt. Throw it back in their faces. Hannity, Coulter (huge party girl), the "could be" murderer Scarborough, O'Reilly, the drug addict, Limbaugh...all of them. They need to know if they are going to dish this shit out, they're going to get it right back.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:10 PM
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30. in the 1980s....
....Patrick Leahy was forced off the Senate Intelligence Committee in the 1980s for allegedly leaking classified information.

That's probably what they're up to with Rockefeller. They want him OFF the SIC. He's too powerful.
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:50 PM
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33. You've hit it right on target grasswire
This may be the first attempt to discredit Rockefeller and if it does not succeed probably not the last.....
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:22 PM
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31. Do you think it was made easily available on purpose?
As a means for the Dems to let the Repubs know that they are in the sights of the Dems on the committee? It certainly does make me feel better knowing they're not laying back. Puts the Rs on notice and could get Sean-o in lots of hot water in the process. I'd like to see him before the committee. One more hot shot on the hot seat.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 10:56 PM
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34. Now the hullaballoo makes perfect sense
I used to think this whole thing was an eighth grade attempt to cover for Chimp's lies by playing up a memo remarkable only for its run-of-the-millness.

But the attempt to tie it to Rockefeller makes it all clear. It's about WV in '04. If Bush and the Dem candidate win the states they won in '00 with WV flipping, Bush* loses. Make Rockefeller and the Dems look like traitors.

These shennanigans in states they want in 04 are starting to form a pattern, folks--Street bugged in PA. Now Bush's private TV network saying a WV senator will be "forced to resign." Watch Wisconsin next.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 11:03 PM
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36. Now that makes a lot of sense to me
It's as plain as the nose on a face.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:57 AM
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37. What We Need Now......
...is someone to come forward with pictures of Sean Hannity in a motel room with either a hooker, a Boy Scout, or a goat.

:-)
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:13 AM
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38. LOL - Altar Boy Insannity and Canteen Boy!
What a great visual:yourock:
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