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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 11:57 PM
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If the economy improves, Dean is toast in '04
That's why we need a foreign policy expert like Clark who will talk circles around Idiotboy in front of the WHOLE NATION.

Clark's INTRICATE EXPERTISE on all relationships between all nations of the world blows people away when they hear him. Nobody would think Bush is better on foreign policy than Clark if the two are matched against each other.... but most people who aren't liberal democrats would have doubts about any of the candidates besides Clark and maybe Kerry....who probablycan't win any southern states.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:12 AM
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1. The Kerry crowd has been saying the same thing
yet the Deaniacs think putting Clark on their ticket will save his ass. Clue for them: People vote the top of the ticket.
Oh and never mind that Dean's tax proposal stinks.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:15 AM
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3. Dean desperadooos, why don't you come to your senses
great guy, but THINK, man, THINK!
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:27 AM
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6. you will either vote for Dean or Bush
Vote Bush if dean is so damn bad
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:32 AM
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7. I'll vote Dean if it's Dean vs. Bush
but I hope to hell it ain't because it will probably be a waste of time unless there is a recession
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:35 AM
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9. I would like to avoid that very bad offering in Nov. '04
thank you.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:15 AM
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2. if the economy improve markedly
probably any democrat is toast. But Dean could win if Iraq is still a mess. At least he has been correct from the get-go on that.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:16 AM
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4. Yes right about Iraq from the start....BUT..BIG BUT........
it won't translate into "foreign policy expertise" for him

Clark has that in spades.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:20 AM
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5. Jobs
There is no way even the luckiest of idiot sons of assholes could make up for the massive amounts of jobs lost since 2001.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:35 AM
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10. He doesnt need to,
he only needs to create a perception that things are going the right way. If we have job creation averaging 150,000 to 200,000 every month until election day, then Bush will have no problem with the election. Remember tricky dick won in a landslide when some 200 soldiers were dying a week in Vietnam.
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:35 AM
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11. Perception of jobs
While there's nothing the idiot king can do to avoid going down in history as the first president since the great depression to preside over a decline in employment, there is a lot the propaganda aparatus can do to make the public believe otherwise.

Tell the public often enough that more jobs are coming and the public will believe it.

Push jobs out of the public's mind by talking up the risk of terrorism and te public will fall for it.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:43 AM
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13. Jobs won't matter
As long as rich people are making money on the stock market, the media will talk about the strong economy, and the "jobless recovery". They are already doing it now.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:34 AM
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8. If the economy improves significantly, any Democrat is toast
Probably not what most of you want to hear, but you know that it is true.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:37 AM
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12. Not if the democrat is vastly better on foreign policy, iraq
and from the south
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lynndew2 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:43 AM
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14. If the Economy is good then it dont matter
And Clark has been the most wishy washy canidate I have ever seen and thats been lots. Dean has killed himself in the south and Clark is just basically dead in the water. I dont see any of the canidates winning with the stupid things that come out of their mouths.

Clark is, I was for the war, I would never have gone for the war, well I might have gone for it, If i did go for it I wouldnt have now, I have NO IDEA WHAT I NEED TO SAY!!!

Dean Has lost the south...Every time he talks now he digs the hole deeper.

I am sorry but it is not looking good now and that is a sad thing.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:56 AM
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15. Dean never had the South, and we must have seen two different
Clarks.
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lynndew2 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 01:00 AM
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16. Yes I saw two differant Clarks
The two days after he joined. He is dropping in the polls fast cause he isnt consistent about anything. But the war thing he has flip-flopped on at least 4 times. Including the 2nd day after he announced.
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lynndew2 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 01:04 AM
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17. Whoooaaa now I see 4 differant Clarks
I guess i need new glasses
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