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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:24 AM
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Tennessee Guardsman Depending On Donated CB Radios?
Just how cheap is Dimbo trying to run this "war" and where is the $87 Billion going?

Link: http://miva.jacksonsun.com/miva/cgi-bin/miva?OPINION/opinion_story.mv+link=200311075543068
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:28 AM
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1. Well, maybe this will wake the folks here in TN
that think W has the moon hanging out his arse! Vote Puke again folks and you may get your Guardsmen sent to another war without the proper equipment!

Uggh! So disgusted with how Puke my state is!
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:01 AM
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2. In more detail:


We only can shake our heads in wonder and disbelief at a story involving donated CB radios being sent to help protect our soldiers in Iraq. The radios were requested by the commander of a Brownsville-based Tennessee National Guard Unit because standard military-issue communication equipment was breaking down, leaving the unit vulnerable while performing its duties in dangerous areas in Iraq. How can this be?

Also wondering what is going on is U.S. Rep. John Tanner, D-Tenn., in whose district the guard unit is based. He did the right thing by sending an urgent letter to the Pentagon demanding an explanation and information about the Army's communication system in Iraq.

Lt. Thomas "Hud" Moore, commander of the 1175th Heavy Equipment Transport detachment, asked for the CB radios in a recent e-mail message home. His unit transports tanks into Iraq from Kuwait and often has to travel through dangerous areas where convoy communications are critical. But Army issue equipment is proving inadequate.

Donors responded with 63 radios. Brownsville resident Jackie Barnes is sending the radios to Iraq. But Col. Michael Armor, commander of the Tennessee National Guard's 230th Area Support Group, is trying to dissuade Barnes because such radios are prohibited by Army regulations and could endanger soldiers since CB radio communications aren't secure. We would point out that they are no less secure than no communications at all, which apparently is what the unit faces.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:43 AM
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4. This really is something. Like the vest?
Where is all that money going?I read that, an Eng. with a corp in Iraq makes(hold on) $900 a day for a 7 day week and will only work with guards and a guide. Could that be true?Yar and the same trained man who is from Iraq gets, what, ($50) a day and no guards or guides.I did not think it could be true so passed over it pretty fast.
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:37 AM
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3. Not shocked: This has been a problem forever
The Army has two basic tactical land mobile radio systems: SINCGARS and VRC-12.

The SINCGARS is nice. It is a "freq-hopper" which means that it changes the frequency it's tuned to several times a second so it can't be intercepted, jammed or located. (You tell it what frequencies you want it to use.) It can communicate with the Racal and Rohde+Schwartz freq-hoppers everyone else in NATO has. It's small and, for a tactical radio, fairly light weight. They have brackets for vehicle use, backpack frames so you can walk around with it, a whole range of accessories. Like I said, it's nice. It's also scarce, ten years after they started fielding it.

One thing you must know: the United States is dead last in its efforts to field a freq-hopper to its troops. The rest of NATO went to freq-hoppers shortly after they were invented, with the sad result that when there were joint-force exercises involving the US and any other country, the non-US force had a US radio parked next to its freq-hopper. Racal and R+S fell down on their sacred duty to put a "talk to the cheapskate Americans" switch on their high-tech radios that would turn off the freq-hopper mode.

The other system is VRC-12, which describes a whole range of equipment. All of it has three salient features: it's old, it's huge and it breaks down a lot.

How old? I went to Basic Training in November 1981. In December they took us to the Committee Group communications training building and introduced us to the PRC-77 (the VRC-12-family radio that runs off a battery) with "this radio is older than anyone in this room." Including all the drill sergeants but one. The RT-524, which mounts in a vehicle, has a label on top: "Two Man Lift. Do Not Use Front Panel Handles To Lift This Radio." If you pick it up by the handles, the handles will fall off and let the radio fall on your toes, and the radio weighs about 70 pounds. (There are steel-toed Army boots, but they're only issued to people like combat engineers.)

It is so big that, in the trucks these Guardsmen have, the radio sits in a bracket that mounts behind the cab.

If the radios get over a certain temperature (like, say, the temp you'd see in a radio that's sitting in a bracket on the outside of your truck when you're in Iraq), it stops working. On purpose. It has an "overheat" mode to keep the radio, which has three vacuum tubes in it, from melting. The only real solution (besides putting the ancient Army radio back in the supply room and mounting anything else) is to get a wool Army blanket, fold it to the size of your radio, saturate it in water and bungee-cord it to the top of the radio. That works okay.

So no, I'm not shocked that the Guardsmen want to use CB radios. Given the choice between a several-thousand-dollar radio that is forty years out of date and stops working if it gets too hot, or a $50 CB from Radio Shack that works all the time, which would you take?
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:32 AM
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5. Thank you...
this is why I like DU...you find out some of the most interesting things!!
They should put you in charge of Defense Contracts Committee...I figure the 87b is safer with you than them.

You wrote common sense for free and some 'consultant' writes BS for thousands...what is wrong with picture


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