Here is how the BFEE will try to destroy Jessica Lynch

[gardenista]

If she can keep telling the truth and deflect the coming attacks and disinformation (i.e., constant focus on the alleged anal rape), she will indeed be a hero, and one of the few effective voices to shine a light on the evil manipulation of her story by Roveco Productions.

What to watch out for:

-Constant focus on the anal rape story. This is a big winner for the media and Roveco Productions. First, the word "rape" in a headline or promo sells. Second, it deflects attention from the real story, which is that the BFEE manipulated events. Finally, it may intimidate Lynch from telling her story on multiple media outlets. It is a horrible feeling to not know if you were raped or not, and they may be able to put so much psychological pressure on her that she cracks.

-Constant hype of the "Saving Private Lynch" movie story. (NOT authorized by Lynch, but a propaganda piece brought to you by the same folks who brought you the incubator story in the first Iraq war.

-Accusations that Lynch is making big bucks off of selling her story, thereby impugning her credibility. (My understanding is that there is a $1 million dollar book deal. In my neighborhood in the Bay Area, that buys you a 2 bedroom house with a garage.)

-More "accidental deaths" of those soldiers who participated in the Roveco Rescue Production.

-Public villification of Lynch by the RW. She is already being completely trashed in Freeperville.

Jessica Lynch has now become one of my personal heros. Her bravery in standing up to the BFEE will emerge as one of the key factors in the destruction of Roveco Productions. They know it, and they will come after her like we've never seen before.

She deserves our support.

[Skittles]

1. as long as she's cashing in

while soldiers are getting blown away every day, I simply cannot respect her.

[hippiegranny]

6. how do you know she is cashing in

and keeping the money? i heard she is donating money for lori piestewa's orphans.

[hlthe2b]

38. Is that true? I do think she should donate at least some of it...

to those (now dead) soldier's families who were responsible for her survival. I empathisize with her and certainly have gained a whole new sense of respect for her sense she has started to counter the hype. I wish her well and I hope she does do the truthful & honorable thing for her fallen comrades. Hang in there, Jessica.

I will not, however be watching her docudrama any more than I would watch the hyped SLC saga of another pretty blonde.

[gardenista]

39. The docudrama is not hers.

This is based on the account of the Iraqi Lawyer who claims to be her rescuer. This guy, by the way, is represented by the same PR firm that brought you the incubater story during Gulf War 1.

I think we may all be amazed by Jessica Lynch before this is all over. She's been talking about the heroism of her comrades all along, and I would not be surprised at all if she did just what you describe.

[tom_paine]

14. Usually I respect you, skittles, but you are so screwed up on this

it is beyond belief.

Should she throw on sackcloth and ashes?

She's standing up to the Busheviks, and that makes her alright in my book.

In the end (and obviously for different reasons) you are now firmly with the Freepers in your opinion on Jessica Lynch.

[Skittles]

20. I think she got wind of the fact

that a lot of people, especially her fellow soldiers, are disgusted with her. I'm a female veteran who is appalled that she would cash in as the blue eyed-blonde haired tool of propaganda.

[gardenista]

17. Yes, and I'm sure you simply can't get informed on the facts, either.

n/t

[Skittles]

22. and of course

YOU know what the facts are

[gardenista]

29. I'm willing to listen to what she has to say

and do not automatically assume that she is a liar because she has blonde hair.

Yes, I am trying my best to gather the facts, because I think this is a story that will expose the media and Rovian manipulations of the war.

I usually appreciate your posts, but I'm sorry to say that I couldn't disagree with you more on this issue.

[Missy Vixen]

35. She's cashing in? Right.

>while soldiers are getting blown away every day, I simply cannot respect her.<

What was she supposed to do, Skittles?

It seems that Private Lynch and her family have tried to get the truth out everytime the new spin hits the airwaves. For that, she's a hell of a lot better than the pink tutus who are now pretending to represent us.

How do you know that she had anything at all to do with writing the upcoming book?

Here's a last question: Those who have spoken out against the BFEE (Daschle comes to mind, as well as Ambassador Wilson,) are endangered and their families threatened as well. How do you know this isn't happening to Jessica Lynch?

Julie

[walkon]

2. What if she was "raped"

By friendly fire, so to speak?

[bushisanidiot]

11. Also,

she had a boyfriend back home. It's possible that they had "consentual alternative sex" and that's where the 'scars' came from. It may also explain why she doesn't remember anything about being raped anally. As someone else pointed out, if she were raped anally to the point that scars were left, wouldn't she have some pain there and thus confirmed that she was indeed violated?

[gardenista]

19. This was not "pointed out" by a credible source.

She was apparently, according to her own words, in horrible pain, all over her body. Maybe she was raped. Maybe she wasn't. We don't know. She hasn't said she was. But I think it is plausible that she might not know for sure.

If I were her, I would go to my own private doctor and try to get the facts, because being haunted by the possibility would be hellish. However, I would not feel obligated to reveal the results of a private medical examination to the public.

Does anyone know the source of the original medical finding? Is it from the same shot/not shot/shot again/oops not shot doctor?

[gardenista]

18. Add this approach to the BFEE tactical playbook.

Offer quotable quotes to the RW media, showing that a majority of DU'ers are claiming that Lynch was raped by US Soldiers.

[SemperEadem]

33. It would be brushed under the rug like all the other rape and

sexual assault "friendly-fire" cases that have been brought in the military. If she was attacked by her own unit, they would be trying to bury her with the fact that she was unconscious during the attack.

[newyawker99]

36. Hi SemperEadem!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[gardenista]

37. This is utter fantasy, and just beyond the pale.

Ok, so your unit has been attacked. Vehicles are crashing, you're under fire, and people are dying. You're a male US soldier, you know, one with a penis. You decide that here's your chance to get a quickie off of that cute blonde chick you've been eyeing, plus, women shouldn't be in the military, anyway, because they have vaginas and could get raped. So, before her shattered body is transported to the hospital, here's your opportunity to git some.

Is that what you REALLY think could have happened? If so, I want some of what you're smoking so I can pass it on to others of little imagination.

I mean, is this REALLY what you want to say?!

Yes, rapes happen within US Military units. Yes, sexual assault is far more common than anyone would EVER imagine, and women keep quiet because they are intimidated or afraid of losing their careers. But in THIS case, your assertion is patently absurd and insulting.

Edit: spelling

[bushisanidiot]

40. Nice Try, But That's Not The Scenario We're Talking About

plenty of soldiers have committed such crimes. It's not new.

But, NOBODY is saying that this is the norm or this is what all u.s. military do. You can't just write off the possibility because they're one of 'us'. If she doesn't remember what happened then we don't know WHO did it (assuming the military doctors are telling the truth about the scars).

Our brave troops are over there doing their job, fighting for the united states, but does that mean every one of them are saints? What about the frag incident? Wasn't that guy a bad guy? Am I anti-american for pointing that out?

And how about the guy from Lynch's own unit (the 507th) who was wanted for some crime in Arizona and ended up committing suicide (this was after he got home from Iraq). You don't think one of those (few) bad guys would be capable of taking advantage of a 19 year old young woman out in the desert?

[gardenista]

42. I am saying that in THIS instance, this speculation takes leaps and bounds

jumping off of an already dubious platform.

1. The medical examination, and claims by the US Military doctor are suspect, in my view.

2. Lynch doesn't remember anything about a rape in the first place.

3. I am not writing off the possibility that this happened simply because the guys in her unit are one of 'us'. I am not writing off anything. I'm simply saying that the circumstances do not lead one to reasonably believe that IF a rape took place, (which I do NOT believe happened), that anyone in her own unit took part.

4. No one, including me, is disputing the fact that there are bad guys on every side who are capable of rape and worse.

5. I never called you anti-american, nor do I think you are. I just think this speculation that this was a "friendly fire" incident is illogical, mainly because I don't believe that Jessica Lynch would be alive today if it were true.

[xultar]

3. Absolutely! She deserves our support and admiration...

The fact that she is standing up and telling the truth is very honorable on her part. I hope God keeps her safe.

[Silverhair]

4. You have high property values.

In her area that will buy her a really nice house, furnish it with furniture, two new cars, and still have most of the after tax money left over. If she can get a $1M book deal good for her. I applaude her for telling the truth.

[gardenista]

27. Yeah, when I think that "selling out" in my neighborhood

might not even get me off the rental market, it's a little depressing.

[LeahMira]

5. What about...

... Lori Piestewa?

Is her story not worth remembering?

[maxsolomon]

8. come now, you know why. she's not blonde!

there was another woman in that ambushed group, shoshanna johnson, who got shot in both ankles, taken prisoner, and then walked out. i remember a picture of her looking exhausted with both ankles wrapped.

why don't we hear something about her? she saw combat!

i'll tell you why: she is black, and overweight, and not very "photogenic". as opposed to pfc. hottie lynch.

utter, utter 100% american predictable crap.

[Karenina]

12. I recall reading several accounts

in the European press that when Shoshana and her comrades were rescued, the hot dogger cadet-in-charge asked the Americans to stand and when she did he forced her to the floor again REFUSING to believe she was American until her buddies vouched for her. :shrug:

[gardenista]

23. Jessica Lynch seems to think so.

Here is how she is remembering Piestewa, her best friend:

-She mentioned her prominently in her first public statement.

-She talks about her heroism during their capture.

-She is starting an educational foundation for the benefit of Peistewa's two children, and the children in Peistewa's community.

Yes, her story is worth remembering. I think that when Lynch has the opportunity to fully reveal her own story, Peistewa will be right there with her.

[LeahMira]

61. From your mouth to G-d's ears...

I think that when Lynch has the opportunity to fully reveal her own story, Peistewa will be right there with her.

I'm afraid for Jessica. I'm afraid that the more she tells the truth of her own story the more things like her alleged rape will come out. How much can she bear? Maybe being old enough to be her mother I just feel protective. I don't know. Young girls today are strong, and if she can stay strong I will be so proud for her.

Meanwhile, maybe we should write Chris Eyre to do Lori's life story, and maybe Spike Lee to do Shoshanna's. I'm sure there are many good producers and directors, but someone needs to tell the whole truth.

Also, there was an address to send donations for Lori's children just after she was killed. Anyone have it still?

[foo_bar]

7. off-topic: why BFEE?

Of all the potential acronyms, why choose one that's unpronounceable? It could just as easily be "BEEF" or even "FEEB". At least PNAC has "pee-knack" potential, but "ba-PHEE"?

[karlschneider]

9. ba-phee is ok with me, they -are- like vampires.

:eyes:

Going to my room now.

[foo_bar]

16. I thought BFEE slew vampires

How about... Bush's Intricate Alibi Threatens Children Here? That has a nice ring.

[Cooley Hurd]

24. I've always pronounced it BEEFY...

...as in "this is a BEEFY operation..."

[AntiCoup2K4]

49. Just call them the BCE. Less letters to remember.

That's Bush Criminal Empire, btw.

[foo_bar]

56. bocce balls?

mmm beefy

[wryter2000]

10. You bet

Consider how much money she could have gotten if she'd played by their rules.

[tom_paine]

13. I agree...Jessica deserves our SUPPORT NOT our SCORN

She is indeed a True American Patriot and Hero, for standing up to the Busheviks despite what she probably knows will happen to her...character assassination and perhaps physical assassination (fly commerical, Jessica!).

DUers hsould wake up on this issue, and stop bashing her.

Hell, they shouldn't have bashed her from the start, before all the facts were in, and we should have gotten a clue when the Busheviks isolated her for MONTHS that she was a stand-up-person.

[gardenista]

26. Yes, she was a POW in Walter Reed

at least, that's what I think. I think they isolated her and tried to break her down.

I think she's finally pissed off enough to tell the whole story. And if the RW attacks continue, they may actually get to see Jessica Lynch in combat mode. Only the target will be their lies.

[carrowsboy]

15. Freepers are really tearing into her!

Reply 9 - Posted by: Shonkin, 11/7/2003 2:38:16 AM

What a little $h!+.


Reply 17 - Posted by: cisco, 11/7/2003 6:33:59 AM

She is an arrogant ingrate and doesn't deserve the care and concern that has been lavished on her.

What a little snot she was to refuse to meet with Mohammed Odeh Al Rehaief, the Iraqi man who provided information to the U.S. Marines that led to the rescue of Jessica. He risked his life and that of his wife and 5 year old daughter to save hers.

The classic All-American b1tch is alive and well in the person of Jessica Lynch.


Reply 26 - Posted by: archiebobarchie, 11/7/2003 2:35:54 PM

More evidence, if any were needed, that women shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a combat zone.


Reply 30 - Posted by: Moonspinner, 11/7/2003 2:48:44 PM

It is time for her to marry, become a teacher, have kids and raise them, and gracefully fade from view with her mouth shut.


Reply 34 - Posted by: pensom2, 11/7/2003 3:08:33 PM

The Army *used* her? She's their employee, isn't she? My employer uses me. The military uses all its employees.


Reply 37 - Posted by: SableColby, 11/7/2003 3:42:56 PM

I say drop her back over there & let her find her own way out next time. That'll show her not to question our military.

[w13rd0]

Wow...you can just feel the support...

...from over there. Perhaps they'll advocate having every military 'employee' sweear a loyalty oath to Bush or get shot. That would appeal to their mindset. But then who would fight their stupid ass wars? The Freepers should leave this country, they don't respect our Constitution or our model of governance. They should just get the fuck out and go somewhere that appreciates their way of thinking, like Saudi Arabia or Korea, or maybe they can set up an island with Saddam, since they seem to think alot like him (kill all Iraqis who oppose us)...

[tedoll78]

21. Do you have a link to that?

I want some entertainment, hehe!

[tom_paine]

25. Jesus Christ these Nazis flick on and off like a light switch.

(of course, to be fair...the curse of the intellectual, we have done the same thing here to a much lesser degree)

But these people are some scary Nazis--which is why they are putty in the hands of their Bushevik Masters.

[Kamika]

28. UHM why is she being trashed at FR??

I thought shed be the idol overthere

[gardenista]

30. Because she is not dancing to the tune of Roveco Productions.

She's telling the truth. That's slander in Freeperville, especially when it comes from a non-chickenhawk, and a woman, to boot.

[Brian Sweat]

31. She was until she made BushCo look bad.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

32. Look what this Freeper said:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1017059/posts
...
I believe the girl is money-mad and is being ill-advised.

No other woman POW has ever made it her mission in life to become a millionaire for doing her sworn duty in the military.

Jessica and her family are white trash.
...

grrrr

[gardenista]

34. Ok, there is a perfect example of tactic #3. With a little

dose of elitism. Nice job, freeper.

[Military Brat]

41. White trash? Won't that make the Southerners mad??

What a classic retort against a poor white girl from West Virginia.

Despite her initial hesitation and what seemed to be striding the fence as she tried to deal with everything coming at her from all sides, Jessica has become a very mature, strong woman. How many of us at that age (or even older) would have been able to stand up to the pressure of the military machine, the bush administration, the media, on and on and on, ad nauseam? What is so remarkable is that she has finally found her voice and is stating the truth.

And if the freepers don't like it, well, since when did they ever embrace the truth, anyway? Vicious beyond belief. Screw 'em.

[gardenista]

43. Having been guilty, as a Maryland girl, of telling WV jokes

I will never, ever tell one again.

Between Jessica Lynch and Robert Byrd, (even with all his baggage), I now have a newfound respect for those who have sprung from the hills of West Virginia.

[mmonk]

57. Ain't that the truth

[AntiCoup2K4]

50. Freepers calling Jessica "white trash"?? Uh, Pot, meet kettle...

Ma and Pa Kettle from Freeperville, that is :eyes:

[sistersofmercy]

44. Thank you for the great post and I agree. But don't forget the Willie

Horton scandel. When the Mean Ol' Snake used it in his 88 campaign against Dukakis and was elected I lost all faith in the multitude. Which was restored when Clinton was elected. GW I not only were there the incubator babies but there were also many reports of Iraqi soldiers suppoedly raping Kuwaiti women leading up to the war. That's why I don't believe the stories about Uday. BFEE has made rapist=Iraqi men.

[pschoeb]

45. A point on the Million dollar book deal

The advance is actually split between her and Bragg, so she isn't getting a million dollars. Not sure what portion goes to Bragg and what to Jessica, she stipulated before the deal, that a portion of her money(includling later royalties) would go directly to charity. Bragg gets only a portion of the Million dollar advance, and no royalties, Jessica will get all the royalties(except the portion that goes to charity).

Patrick Schoeb

[gardenista]

47. Thank you. It would be helpful to know more details about that.

Do you have any links? I want to be able to cite the charitable donations, if possible. Thank you.

[pschoeb]

51. Here you go

These give the terms about the split between Bragg and Lynch

http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA321008&publication=libraryjournal

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/03/1062515427558.html

Links about portion going to charity

http://publishersweekly.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA322138&publication=publishersweekly

This link gives the nature of the charity

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/1003/25lynch.html

Early on when her family was inundated with gifts and flowers, they publically stated that people should send money to relief and charity organizations instead.

Patrick Schoeb

[gardenista]

52. Thanks for the links!

This is a great antidote to the "cashing in" meme.

[Catherine Vincent]

46. I agree. I think we should support Ms. Lynch!

That is very bold of her to come out and basically say the military told lies about her. For all we know, Ms. Lynch may be a Democrat because if she was a repuglican more than likely she would have let the military make the calls. She is a determined woman that wants to get the truth out. Good for her.

What I really like about her is that in all her interviews or quotes, she doesn't mention whistle ass Bush* not one time!

[gardenista]

48. Yep. Regardless of her political affiliation, she is telling the truth.

I also love how she avoids the subject of whistle ass. I think it probably just bugs the living crap out of him.

[dflprincess]

53. She deserves a lot of credit for what she's doing now

It takes a brave person to stand up to the media and the BFEE and tell them they were wrong.

The article starts out saying the Iraqi doctors who treated her saw no sign of rape.

From today's Star Tribune (AP story)

http://www.startribune.com/stories/670/4199719.html
<snip>
In an interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer, Lynch said she has no recollection of a rape. "Even just the thinking about that, that's too painful," she said.

Lynch told Sawyer she doesn't remember being slapped or mistreated at the hospital, and she recalled one nurse sang to her.

She also accused the military of using her capture and dramatic nighttime rescue to sway public support for the war in Iraq.
Video of U.S. commandos whisking Lynch to a waiting chopper helped cement Lynch's image as a hero. But in the "Primetime" interview to be aired on Tuesday, Lynch told Sawyer there was no reason for her rescue to be filmed.

"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff," Lynch said. "It's wrong."

Lynch told Sawyer she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that her gun jammed during the chaos. "I'm not about to take credit for something I didn't do," she said. “I did not shoot, not a round, nothing. ... I went down praying to my knees. And that's the last I remember."
<end snip>

And, in the print edition of today's paper she is also quoted as saying "That may have been Lori that fought fiercely til her death. But that was not me and I'm not taking credit for it...It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had no truth about. Only I would have been able to know that, because the other four people on my vehicle aren't here to tell the story." She also expressed how thankful she was to the Iraqi doctors and nurses.

I'll admit I though it was tacky of her not to meet the guy who told the Americans where she was, but maybe she was afraid a meeting with him would just get spun to keep a story even she's not buying alive.

I've changed my tune about her. She strikes me as a young woman with a lot of integrity.

[DrBB]

54. So now we're off the vilification track with Lynch?

Interesting. Now she's our hero. Okay. Well, I'm glad to see her speaking out. And as far as I'm concerned she's always been entitled to the same respect I accord to all our line soldiers, irrespective of the merits of the conflict they're engaged in. But I've generally avoided the Lynch threads over the last 6 months b/c they devolve so readily into the villification we're denouncing here.

I mean, I know it's an internet forum and all, and no one is responsible this month for whatever forgotten idiotic thing they said last month on a given topic, but sheesh. I guess I just want to ask us all to reflect for a moment and the next time we leap to villify some person as this week's incarnation of the BFEE and All That Is Evil, to pause, take a breath, and try to avoid simplistic, paranoic overstatement, lest we end up feeling a leetle hypocritical a month hence, m'kay.
</holier-than-thou-rant>

[gardenista]

55. Wise words.

n/t

[gardenista]

58. Kick

.

[ComerPerro]

59. I feel the same way

Once I learned that she spoke out against the Republican accounts of her story, I was very impressed with her. I felt bad for any bad thoughts I had about her too.

One thing you can garuntee will happen: BushCo will insist that they never inflated or exaggerated accounts of her story. They will most likely try to blame it on the media.

[gardenista]

60. Just like Bannergate, they will find some one else to nail it on.

And the media is motivated to supress her story because she exposes their lies, which were based on the usual: Roveco Productions Leak Department.

It just makes me sick.