More on patriot Lynch

[mmonk]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3251731.stm

[wtmusic]

1. So she was raped

The fact that she was a sex tool probably saved her life.

Disgusting, but true. Her life goes on.

[NontoxicAvenger]

3. However,

the ghost-writer of her book is also the same person who wrote the BS about the Kuwaiti incubator babies. Don't put too much stock in that myth.

[QC]

7. Wrong.

It was a Republican-connected PR firm by the name of Hill & Knowlton that cooked up the babies-thrown-from-incubators story.

[lostnfound]

28. According to DemocracyNow! interview, nontoxicAvenger is right..

Lauri Fitz-Pegado is helping with the Jessica Lynch book and fairytale, and according to the link below, she was also "in charge" of the Kuwaiti-baby-incubator story FOR Hill & Knowlton.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3589/us-iraq-lie.html

[gardenista]

29. Valuable info, BUT, Lauri Fitz-Pegado is not working with Lynch

She is working with the Iraqi lawyer who claims to have rescued her. Big difference. You are right that she is part of creating the fairy tale.

The distinction I am trying to make is that Lynch is doing her best to debunk that fairy tale, and deserves credit for it.

The link refers only to the incubator story, not to Lynch, or to Pegado's current "project" with the lawyer, who is the hero in the movie.

No film has been authorized by Lynch and her family.

[gardenista]

16. FALSE. You are confusing the movie, made WITHOUT Lynch's approval.

That PR firm is supporting the lawyer who claims he rescued Lynch. She basically disavows any contact with him, and refutes his claim that she was slapped and tortured in the hospital.

[michaelbmoore]

4. That's true, but

lets just pray or whatever for her, okay? I can't imagine what she went through.

[NontoxicAvenger]

2. She's a hero for telling the truth

The interview will be aired on Allied Forces Network on Wednesday and I plan to watch.

As the mom of a 19 year-old daughter (as well as the wife of a career military man), it struck a chord when she was missing and presumed dead. When she was "rescued" my daughter was estatic. Now that the facts are emerging, not so much.

[michaelbmoore]

5. Now she really did earn her medal!

In my book!

[wtmusic]

6. No kidding

What kind of pressure has she been under to maintain the propaganda put forth by the DOD? It's a problem of their own making. The truth will prevail.

[gardenista]

17. Glad to hear the interview will be aired on AFN

You may be very surprised when you see that she criticizes the Bush Cabal using her as a symbol. Also, she does NOT say that she was raped. She says she can't remember. It is military doctors who claim that she has scars *indicating* that she was raped. The BFEE is broadcasting the rape angle in order to quash the important part of her story- that they lied, and lied, and lied about her capture and rescue.

Your daughter still has many admirable qualities to find in Jessica Lynch.

[annak110]

8. Check this out, and remember that the Iraqi people have been

much more truthful throughout than have U.S. citizens


<http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1107&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20031107%2F202850270.htm&sc=1107&photoid=20031107BAG112>

[wtmusic]

10. good link...thanks

[Deja Q]

9. Equality is unequal, just ask women US soldiers have violated in wars...

This is the sort of thing you're going to expect in war. Troops hurting one another. Duh.

Worse, plenty of American soldiers had their way with Korean and Vietnamese civilian women, so why is it suddenly a sin against the whole of creation and the cosmos, because it happened to an American who wasn't even a civilian?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=US+soldier+rape+korean+woman

and

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=US+soldier+rape+vietnamese+woman

Hell, who needs links when I've heard vets tell of stories and human history is replete with this sort of disgusting behavior, showing humanity has not improved itself despite technological advances to make things easier.

Don't expect sympathy from me though. Humankind always seems to want - and get - what it claims to hate and not want. This is what we get and there's a difference between hurting a soldier and a CIVILIAN, for pity's sake! And it's in a war that's not justified and that has caused far more hurt than help, especially in the long run thanks to Bush's* incompetence, vengeance, and lust for oil. (not that I'd give amnesty to anybody, all warmongers are vile and don't deserve to live.)

Still, she's being honest to the media about her experiences. This UK news is far more valuable than the US media, who'll likely spin things out of control anyway. (I will not see the NBC Lynch movie because I bet it will contain contrived or false information and a lot of emotional drooling.)

When do you find male privates being violated by enemy troops?! NEVER. Maybe we need to enlist more gay men worldwide? :eyes:

[cliss]

11. I'm just wondering

why did it take her this long to tell what really happened? At first, it was media (and WH GOLD). A little later, the scandal broke about the "rescue". Now, this.

It's good that the facts are getting told.

[mmonk]

12. we don't know what kind of pressure she

has been under.

[Kanary]

15. "why did it take her this long to tell what really happened?"

Ummm, could it have something to do with the fact that she has been dealing with a very painful, broken body?

Could it deal with the fact that she was still in the military, and is now out?

How 'bout we put ourselves in her boots for just a bit, and cut her a bit of slack, eh?

Kanary

[gardenista]

20. I think she waited for the BS movie to come out. She did not approve it

and she knew that they were trying to tell her story for her AGAIN, and spin it to their advantage. She has to come out now and tell her version of events. I think she's telling the truth, and I hope the American public will be able to see through the smoke and mirrors to realize that this kid is the real deal. And that she's not afraid to stand up to the Bush administration.

[glarius]

13. She deserves admiration for bucking the brass and telling the truth

It would have been so much easier for her to just go along with the "official" story the government is putting out...She's very brave, I believe, to refute their claims...I think, reading between the lines, she is as much as agreeing with the Iraqi doctors that she was not raped.

[ajacobson]

14. Kinda explains

why she was kept under wraps for so long after she was returned to the U.S.

Talk about spin control.

[raysr]

18. Raped

The Iraqi doctor that saved her life said she came in fully clothed, field jacket and pants zipped up, no tears in clothes , no evidence of a rape. Who said she was raped, the doctors at Walter Reed with some Pentagon redirection?

[laura888]

19. true - let's see some medical doctors verify this...

based on all the lies surrounding Lynch, I'm doubtful about any story about her.

I want to see a medical doctor put his name on this story.

[raysr]

22. Pain

As far as evidence after the fact, being on narcotic painkillers for a long time, which she was, raises hell with your tract. Constipation, 'roids, etc.(Voice of experience)

[laura888]

23. lies are painful too

sure she is probably an innocent victim in this. But, cut the "she's a hero" crap. I don't seen any evidence of it.

I want verification from a non-military doctor that she was raped.

Without this, this shouldn't be making the airwaves at all...

[gardenista]

21. How many of us could withstand that pressure?

I, for one, would be wearing a pink tutu right now and publically praising the great Donald Rumsfeld. But I am weak, and not a soldier. I have extraordinary admiration for Jessica Lynch, and I hope she can continue to keep it together and tell her simple truth.

[Isome]

25. admiration for Jessica

We can't forget that... good point!

She's come out with what she knows to be true, even though it is the opposite of what her superiors have said. That is courageous.

[Isome]

24. Was she raped?

"...the former prisoner-of-war told ABC television that medical reports indicated that she had been raped.

She said she had no recollection of the attack. ..."

After all the half-truths and outright lies of government authorities, it's difficult to totally believe that she'd remember all the things the Iraqis said they'd done to help her, but our reports initially denied or downplayed, yet she doesn't remember the sexual assault. I'm no expert so I can only suppose that even in that situation some memories are easier to retain (like the accident and the pain), while others are too traumatic. The only alternative is that she was assaulted, while unconcious, before Iraqi medical personnel got to her.

[gardenista]

26. This is my take on the rape question

I think it's possibe that she was raped, but it's most likely that she wasn't.

Now that this has been brought out, I think it would be reasonable to expect to see some medical documentation. What is conflicting me is that the book she's working on is the source of this revelation. But she says she doesn't remember. I believe her. But then why allow the author to include it if she doesn't remember it? I'm not sure, but I think that she has decided to open up with everything she has. She has medical records that indicate she was raped, so they're included in her story. I think she's very focused on just getting her truth out to the public, and that happens to include this ambiguous information about the *possibility* of a rape.

Unfortunately, because this is just so irresistably titillating to the press, she is being portrayed as a victim all over again, rather than the hero I think she became when she told her truth with dignity, integrity and courage.

Jessica you are one of my personal heros. That's a short list. Thank you for reviving my faith in the power of one person to stand up to authority and speak the truth.

[raysr]

27. Iraqi Soldiers

Are they issued comdoms with their AK's? No semen found, right?

[gardenista]

30. No semen has yet been mentioned by any medical authority.

The Iraqi doctors who examined her did not find *any* evidence of rape, and as far as I know, the US Military doctor who claims to have found scars indicating anal rape has no proof in terms of semen.

It is doubtful that he could make any credible findings by examining her so long after her accident. The only period of time in which Lynch is unaware of her surroundings is during the period she can't remember, which is three hours after the accident, as far as I understand.