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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:48 PM
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Dean is the big money candidate and Clark is the grassroots canididate
Who would have thunk it? All the blabbering about the "establishment"
bankrolling Clark was bunk. Clark has the grassroots now.
Dean is coming back to his family's easthampton "DEAN Witter Reynolds" roots.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:49 PM
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1. what? n/t
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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:51 PM
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2. ???
Speaking of blabbering...

Is incoherence a requisite quality for people who hate Dean?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:51 PM
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3. I'd suggest you look at the breakdown of his campaign contributions
before you start prattling on about him being the "big money" candidate.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:52 PM
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4. Dean's grassroots are what fuels his campaign
And that is us small time donors. 54% of Dean's donations came from donations less than $200 each. Clark had more from over $200 than Dean did.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:52 PM
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5. Me thinks this'll get locked...
...before sundown. Although, it's not really close to sundown, but...shaddup.

Later.

RJS
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:53 PM
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6. Forget that big money grass roots crap
Who is the Pepperoni Pizza candidate?

Who is the candidate with sprinkles?

Who is the '83 Lincoln Continental candidate?

Who is the Asgardian Candidate?

Do we really know?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:57 PM
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7. I'm just
Dean people gave Clark hell for being the "establishment" favorite.
When Dean comes from plenty of WALL STREET Money and family connections up the wazooo. Clark is NOT perfect but it comforts me he dose not come from a lot of MONEY.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:02 PM
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8. let go to wal-mart
and support minimum wage jobs and no unions.

feel better?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:05 PM
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9. Nope.
The only candidate with more small donors than Dean is Kucinich.



Dean is grassroots...
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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:08 PM
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10. Is Dean gonna have a party when it hits 500,000?
Edited on Sat Nov-08-03 03:08 PM by TakebackAmerica
That will be a great day for America and the Democratic party.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:41 PM
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17. Yeah.
He's gonna party like it's 1999.
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:59 PM
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20. Do you want the Democrats to lose?
Because if we don't have the same resources that the Bush campaign has, we are severely handicaaped.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:30 PM
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12. Can you provide a link that shows Kucinich with more small donations?
I've never seen this claim before. Since Dean received more than 200,000 more small (under $200) donations last quarter, it seems unlikely, though not impossible, that Kucinich topped that.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:39 PM
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16. Oops. I meant as a percentage of his total funds
There is no way in hell Kucinich has more small donors than Dean, but the percentage of small donors is slightly higher for Kucinich.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:10 PM
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11. Is big money from common individual citizens a bad thing?
I say good on 'im!

Remember that the problem with corporate big money was that the interests behind it are narrow. Dean and his growing war chest of individual contributors means his "special interest group" is people.

That's one special interest I'll never have an issue with.


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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:37 PM
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13. I'm not persuaded by your comments.
I'm an impovershed student, and I've managed to scrape up over $100 for Dean so far. Dissing me is not a way to get me on Clark's side.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:38 PM
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14. This makes no sense
Both of them have grassroots and money. Clark started later. That's it.
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dean4america Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:39 PM
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15. Dean is NOT THE DEAN in DEAN WITTER
for the last time people, Howard Dean is not related to the DEAN of DEAN WITTER. if 200,000+ Americans donating 77 dollars to Dean makes him the "big money" candidate, fine by me. To suggest that Clark is a grassroots candidate in the face of Dean's grassroots success is ridiculous.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:48 PM
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18. "Ridiculous" ..has never stopped 'em
yet!
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:58 PM
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19. How do you figure that?
The average amount contributed by individuals to the Dean campaign is about $80. The campaign has raised so much money because so many people have given what they could, usually a small amount. Dean is thus the ultimate grassroots candidate. His plan to opt out of th federal matching, which limits the total he can raise, has nothing to do with "big money" contributors. Dean will continue to woo the average citizen to give a small contribution. His goal is 2 million contributions of $100.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 04:52 PM
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21. I clearly am lost...
When and how did Dean become a "big money candidate"? I missed tthat news altogether. Clark is my choice, and he has good grassroots support (hopefully it will grow) but it still can't match Dean's grassroots. To be fair, no other candidates can.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 05:00 PM
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22. Is this really productive?
I don't see how either camp could give a rat's ass about this subject. Drop it?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 05:03 PM
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23. huh?this is clearly a huge leap in logic....
When 90% of Dean's campaign money comes from his donors, about 200,000 donors, for heaven's sake......at $75 bucks each.....clearly you haven't been listening to the news.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 06:37 PM
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24. I'm confused...
Your profile says:

Clark/Dean for America
The Ticket for '04

Yet you go out of your way to attack Dean? Huh? What am I missing?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 06:42 PM
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25. Wha???
Exactly what the hell are you talking about? The media fawns over Clark, not Dean, or Kerry, or Kucinich, or anyone else. Dean, more than the others, has connected people all over the country using the internet, and received thousands in donations from individuals.

How exactly is Clark the "grassroots" candidate?
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 06:51 PM
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26. Nice try
Keep dreaming!
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