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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 06:16 AM
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Britain becoming *'s doormat.
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Britain is fast becoming Bush's doormat - so why isn't the British right saying a word?

George Monbiot
Tuesday July 8, 2003
The Guardian

The prediction was not hard to make. If Britain kept supporting the US government as it trampled the sovereignty of other nations, before long it would come to threaten our own. But few guessed that this would happen so soon.
Long ago, Britain informally surrendered much of its determination of foreign policy to the United States. We have sent our soldiers to die for that country in two recent wars, and our politicians to lie for it. But now the British government is going much further. It is ceding control to the US over two of the principal instruments of national self-determination: judicial authority and military policy. The mystery is not that this is happening. The mystery is that those who have sought to persuade us that they are the guardians of national sovereignty are either failing to respond or demanding only that Britain becomes the doormat on which the US government can wipe its bloodstained boots.

A month ago we discovered that our home secretary had secretly concluded an extradition treaty with the US that permits the superpower to extract British nationals without presenting evidence before a court. Britain acquires no such rights in the US. The response from the rightwing press was a thunderous silence. Last week, we learnt that two British citizens held in the prison camp in Guantanamo Bay will be denied a fair trial, that they may stay in prison even if they are found innocent, and that they will not be returned to Britain to serve their sentences. There were a couple of muted squeaks in the patriotic papers, offset by an article in the Sunday Telegraph which sought to justify the US action on the grounds that one of the men had been arrested before. The story was spoilt somewhat by the fact that he had been released without charge.

But by far the most significant event passed without comment. Two weeks ago, the defence secretary, Geoff Hoon, told the Royal United Services Institute that he intends to restructure the British armed forces. As "it is highly unlikely that the United Kingdom would be engaged in large-scale combat operations without the United States", the armed forces must now be "structured and equipped" to meet the demands of the wars fought by our ally. Our military, in other words, will become functionally subordinate to that of another nation. The only published response from the right that I can find came from Bernard Jenkin, the Conservative defence spokesman. "The real question he must answer," Jenkin rumbled, "is how he can deliver more with underlying defence spending running behind the total inherited from the previous Conservative government." For the party of national sovereignty, there is no question of whether; simply of how.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,993465,00.html
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 06:59 AM
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1. Worrying isn't it?
> A month ago we discovered that our home secretary had secretly
> concluded an extradition treaty with the US that permits the
> superpower to extract British nationals without presenting
> evidence before a court.
> ...
> Last week, we learnt that two British citizens held in the prison
> camp in Guantanamo Bay will be denied a fair trial, that they may
> stay in prison even if they are found innocent...

It would appear that UK citizens now have exactly the same respect and rights as those of the other states of America.

No evidence required, no information released, no communication allowed, just abduction, imprisonment and interrogation until such time as the kommandant decides that your cell is needed for the next victim.

Funny how history repeats itself ...

Nihil
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:04 AM
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2. No surprises there
Blair just has to be reminded who's Hitler and who's Mussolini in their Bushevik equation.

And yes, Totalitarianism, as I predicted, begins to spread like a plague.

The 21st Century is very likely to be the Age of Totalitarianism.
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ThomasJefferson Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:10 AM
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4. Totalitarism
the dreams of Blair, that we will be all servants.......

http://a1692.g.akamai.net/f/1692/2042/1d/medias.lemonde.fr/medias/image_article/03070901_blair+mase.jpg

you can sign to bombs Bush with pretzels, there is a french campaign!

http://www.bretzelforbush.com/
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:09 AM
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3. It's why the British people need
a Democrat in the Whitehouse.
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