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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:13 PM
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After all the Bush lies,coverups,mediawhoring, teflonizing, Dem wimping...
and even after inflating Bush ratings, he is NOW losing by 50-44 according to the latest Newsweek poll of registered voters. Zogby also has the Dems ahead by six points, 44-38, and the campaign hasn't even started yet.

The CIA is very angry. Joseph Wilson will not be silenced. The quagmire in Iraq continues with more and more military and their families turning against Bush every day. The investigations into 9/11, Iraq and the WH Plame leak will continue, despite Republican opposition. Former Bush voters are saying they will vote Dem in 2004. BBV and the Diebold fiasco is gaining traction in the media and California and other states refuse to certify these machines without a paper trail. Jessica Lynch is joining the Dixie Chicks in putting the lie to the Bush propaganda.

The trend is not Bush's friend. Imagine where he will be in six months? So guess who is running scared right now?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20031108/ts_alt_afp/us_bush_poll_031108213446

U.S. National - AFP
50 percent of US voters want Bush out: poll
Sat Nov 8, 4:34 PM ET Add U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!

NEW YORK (AFP) - Fifty percent of registered US voters do not want President George W. Bush (news - web sites) re-elected to a second term, and 44 percent do, according to a Newsweek poll.

A month ago, the poll showed those for and against another Bush term split evenly.

Of the 1,002 voting age Americans polled November 6-7, only 14 percent said they were very confident the United States would succeed in establishing a stable, long-term democratic government in Iraq (news - web sites), 36 percent said they were somewhat confident, 26 percent were not very confident and 21 percent, not at all.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:17 PM
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1. Alot of it has to do with Joe Wilson exposing two things
Edited on Sun Nov-09-03 04:31 PM by blm
the intel lie pushed through by Cheney and in Bush's SOTU. And that this treasonous WH outed his CIA agent wife.

The public was clearly able to see these two issues because they were simple to grasp. A big lie exposed, and a vicious revenge for those who exposed the lie.

Wilson's website: www.RestoreHonesty.com
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:37 PM
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5. The real show is coming
...when the CIA dirty trics squad goes head to head against the Bush dirty tricks squad.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:41 PM
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6. Yeah, but it looks like some Dems are putting obstacles in their way.
I don't think they grasp the more historic nature of the needed battle. This is decades of BFEE malfeasance that needs to be dealt with by experienced hands.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:20 PM
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2. Let's all hope this is true
The average Joe is seeing that they have no plan on Iraq, on the middle East, on the economy, they are flying badly by the seat of their pants.
Will the media put the heat on this administration or are they too afraid of losing access (What access!)?
People will get tired of this fearmongering sooner or later.
Meanwhile, let's take bets to see what Rove pulls out of his hat.
Anyone?

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:28 PM
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3. very sneaky, TIA
slipping that "dem wimping" in there.

Is this going to be your response if Bush starts slipping further, that it has nothing to do with the dems?

You think John Kerry has nothing to do with Joe Wilson?
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sventvkg Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 05:04 PM
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7. The insider Dems are WEAK..The overwhelming Majority of them.
and yes sorry...Kerry is one of them..Another one who will only jump on the boat once it has set sail, rather then be at the forefront of doing the right thing...
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 05:12 PM
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8. to the contrary...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1105/p01s04-uspo.html

For someone who's spent the bulk of his life as a politician, Kerry actually has a history of challenging the system. In the Senate, he headed a number of controversial investigations, including Iran Contra and the BCCI affair - the latter of which implicated members of his own party. He refused to take PAC money in all four of his Senate campaigns.

Above all, there is Kerry's role as one of the nation's most prominent Vietnam War protesters, who at age 27 testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and famously asked: "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"


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Bollinger Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 04:31 PM
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4. Shrub is going down, no question
Only 12 more month, we can get the country back to normal.
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 05:35 PM
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9. This shows that 2004 is winnable
BUT the generic race against an "unnamed Democrat" always polls stronger than the actually nominee, because people tend to assume their favorite is the "unnamed" guy, or attribute the exact qualities they want to the "unnamed" opponent.

To win, it will take a united party with ALL of the supporters of ALL of the candidates behind the nominee. We will need hard-working volunteers to spread the word and get out the vote, and there won't be enough if some of us are sitting it out because "our guy" didn't win the nomination.

Let's be careful, in the passions of a hard-fought campaign, not to burn any bridges between us, and keep the real goal in mind.
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