DU reported in UK Sunday Times

[emad]

From The UK's Sunday Times Review, Andrew Sullivan reporting:

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"Here’s a bowdlerised version of an e-mail posted on the Democratic Underground website last week. DU is a radical left publication, although it obviously uses the party name: “I Hope the Bloodshed Continues in Iraq . . . The only way to get rid of this slime bag Wasp-Mafia, oil baron-ridden cartel of a government, this assault on Americans and anything one could laughingly call ‘a democracy’, relies heavily on what a hole Iraq turns into.”

No, this is not representative of the left as a whole. But the fact that it exists shows how alienated some people are. And you can find similarly wacko views on the right on such websites as Free Republic, which is sometimes just as outrageous in the other direction as Democratic Underground."

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-886320,00.html


I would have thought that when it comes to 'fair and balanced' Freeper Repulic does not exactly compare with DU....

[La_Serpiente]

1. What the hell

We just do this for fun. It is not like that we are some legitmate news source. They have been reading too much of Andy Sullivan. Why don't they just leave us alone?

They are stereotyping us when they say that. I certainly don't subscribe to that view. I am sure a lot of people DO NOT SUBSCRIBE to that view. So we have a couple of far lefties...big deal. Just to say we are all radicals is unethical.

[emad]

2. I have noticed an awful lot of UK hacks regularly quote one-off

gems that first appear on the DU. Sullivan must trawl all the political websites for something original to print I guess

[La_Serpiente]

3. don't respond to this

but now that you are going to hit 1000 posts, I would reccomend that you do something special. Make your own post.

[Paschall]

4. If he is not posting these gems himself

Ya think Andrew "the AIDS epidemic is over" Sullivan is above twisting the truth?

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. People will eventually come and see for themselves.

Personally, I don't see many radical left views on this newsgroup. If you want to see radical left, visit some of the internet british newsgroups. You'll learn very quickly what a left-wing iconoclast is.

[izzie]

6. I did not know I was a radical? I just do not like the turn of the govt.

Good Americans stand up for what they dislike about their govt.

[Capt_Nemo]

7. DU pissed off Rupert Murdoch!

That's something that should make us proud!

[loudnclear]

17. To tell the truth, DU has "pissed off" a lot of the opposition but we

we always strike a nerve when we tell the truth. The detractors are more and more angry with themselves as they see the truth and critical thinking unfold before their very eyes. It's enough to make them want to SCREAM!!!!

[jonoboy]

8. sorta like "they should all be lined up and shot ( slapped)" !!

would someone ever stoop so low as to say that ????

[Kahuna]

9. Mark Levine of WABC radio in NYC read the post...

on the radio in full last Wednesday night. I hadn't even seen it when it was originally posted.

I think this publicity is a direct correlation to the flood of new registrations this past week.

[ShaneGR]

10. The curse of Starpass, screwing over DU royally

Sighs, we're now officially branded troop death loving scumbags....



AHHHHHH!!!!

[seventhson]

14. It is like a train wreck (only better)

People will come to view the "carnage".

They will see that this is an isolated incident and they will read some of the other posts looking for "the dirty filthy evil minds" of the left.

Instead they will find truth, justice, and the American way.

I know if I were an Iraqi I might feel exactly as Starpass does. I understand this viewpoint because it is war and both sides use hate and violence to feed their cause. It is like the Israel-Palestinian conflict: both sides have just reasons for their struggle and unjust ones as well. Getting rid of Sadaam was a just struggle. Annihilating masses of civilians was not.

Were the Iraqis better off under Saddam? Probably. Would they have been better off if we used diplomacy instead of bloodshed to keep Saddam in check? I believe probably so.

But we will now never know because we have created hell on earth once again for our young people sent to an insane war like the insane clown posse and for the people of Iraq who will probably hate the US forever for what we have wreaked there.

Bring the troops home now is all I can really say. I love those kids, I support them -- but goddamit bring them home. It is a shitstorm of death and it serves no National Security purpose.

[Bread and Circus]

11. They call us wacko?

This quote is prophetic, not wacko....

"The only way to get rid of this slime bag Wasp-Mafia, oil baron-ridden cartel of a government, this assault on Americans and anything one could laughingly call ‘a democracy’, relies heavily on what a hole Iraq turns into."

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What's wacko is the American People giving up civil liberties
to John Ashcroft without a fight. What's wacko is the role
the Congress and the Media are playing, that of "Willing Accomplice".

Al Gore's statements made yesterday echo what we all say here.
We are not wacko, the state this Fucking country is in is wacko.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. The other good point to make is that the brits have a much broader

understanding of the English language. They understand exaggeration, sarcasm, irony and satire far better than Americans. Sullivan, not being a self-respecting brit or American for that matter, is not going to get high points in England for his narrow observations.

[mmonk]

13. Is Sullivan and others scared of DU?

[emad]

15. I thinks he's just gobsmacked at its mere existence and the

spectrum of bush-bash that goes on.

[KoKo]

16. Yes, they only howl about things they see as a threat!

Defintely. They see it as a new counter-movement to the RW. You bet they are worried! We are the new "Democratic Insurgents."