Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who cares what you think?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:47 AM
Original message
Who cares what you think?
Probably just me.
Anyway...
I haven't come on here with my hair on fire endorsing or trashing any of the Nebulous Nine, so far.
(OK, alliterative cheap shot. My bad.)

I saw Edwards and Kerry on the talking heads shows yesterday. I saw some not-so-nimble soft-shoe and do-si-do. It's tough being shown past statements, or votes, or videotapes, and now being asked to explain your actions. Especially when what you did/said seems to contradict what you're doing/saying now.

Here's what I don't understand. Why can't you just admit a mistake? A mistake based on bad information?
Why can't you look right into the camera and say "Tim (or whoever), when I did/said that I was going on the information that I had at the time. Information that I believed to be true. Now I have learned that our Commander-in-Chief and many of his so-called advisors lied through their teeth. Some would be more polite and say they "shaded", or "fudged", or "hyped", or "misled". I'm here to call a spade a spade. The time for diplomacy and tact is long past. They lied to us, the American people, and they lied to me. They knew they were lying. Now we know. Of course I would not have (fill in the blank) if I knew then what I know now."

Can anyone explain this to me?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:52 AM
Response to Original message
1. It could be because a lot of politicians simply can not say "I made a
mistake", and because of that, they can not change course on this subject of the Iraq War Vote.

That is my most humble opiniion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. That and...
... they don't want to be seen as leaving the country open to future terrorist attacks, which attacks over 50% of the public link with Iraq.

Maybe one of the candidates will have the smarts to unlink the two and then tell his or her plan for preventing terrorist attacks on U.S. soil.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. The doctrine of infallibility.
I don't understand it.
I've been on both sides of the fence.
Whenever someone has come to me and said "I made a mistake and I apologize" I fall all over myself forgiving them and assuring them it's OK.
That has also invariably been the result when I was the one in the wrong and made a full apology.
Mistakes happen. We're all human. I don't expect politicians to be infallible. I just expect them to do the best they can with what they have to work with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catfish Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
2. I respect people who can admit they were wrong.
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 09:57 AM by Catfish
Doesn't seem to be a trait politicians seem to understand. I would respect someone who answered a question just as you suggest. However, you just know some in the media would pounce on it in a negative way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Not to mention
The other eight who also want to be president.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:25 AM
Response to Original message
6. Call it the Lee Atwater Effect.
Every Dem knows that any statement that they make on film is going to get recycled by the repigs in a campaign commercial. Edwards could give a well-nuanced response, but the only thing the public would see if a loop tape of him uttering "I made a mistake." This would be prefaced by loaded repig questions, like:

What did John Edwards say about supporting our troops in Iraq?
"I made a mistake."

What did John Edwards say about voting for president bush's tax cuts for Americans?
"I made a mistake."

etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 05:58 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC