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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:52 PM
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FBI To Website Owner(Cryptome): "We Are Watching You"
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 01:00 PM by DUreader
http://www.counterpunch.org/cassel11072003.html


This website wont let me copy/paste

Somebody please post a few snips

thanks

on edit: http://www.cryptome.org/

http://cryptome.org/fbi-cryptome.htm
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:55 PM
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1. From the article:
Cryptome is a web site dedicated to investigating and publishing accounts of government improprieties, particularly as they relate to secrecy and First Amendment violations. On November 4, FBI agents visited the website's New York City office and met with site owner John Young.

Both agents, who are identified on the site and who left their official cards, said that they had information that Cryptome was a source of information that could be used to "harm the United States." Prior investigations by the FBI, the agent admitted, had not found any evidence of criminal wrongdoing, but the FBI was fearful that information on the site would end up in the "wrong" hands. Cryptome was asked to report to the FBI any "gut feeling" they had that its information would be a "threat" to the U.S.

One agent said that visits like these are increasingly common as the government seeks out information on threats to the U.S. The agents said they would "write up" a report on their visit. The agents asked that their names not be published, but Cryptome refused to honor that request. One reason for their request of anonymity is so that information about them cannot be pulled from one of many databases available online. (Funny how government agents don't want to be the source of data mining, but they certainly want to use it against us.)

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 12:59 PM
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2. Thanks pbl, I realized this is days old and alerted for a move
to gd
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 01:38 PM
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3. kick
nt
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 02:47 PM
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4. "The website won't let me copy/paste" Really????
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 02:49 PM by hunter

Wow, DUreader, is this some "feature" of your browser?

I wouldn't know, my computer is entirely transparent to me. I can happily cut and paste anything I can see or hear.

:hi:

That's me waving to the "Special Agents" from my little internet goldfish bowl. Every once in a while I feel it is my patriotic duty to look at some new and novel porn site, just to entertain those poor deskbound Special Agents who must read all my drivel.

BTW, I have this "gut feeling" that George W. Bush is a "threat" to the United States of America. (But you already knew that.)

:kick:

edited, just to make you wonder...
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:20 PM
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5. Seems to me they should doing some more watching of the people who
are watching the people who watch. I mean to find out what is going on wouldn't you need some type of journalism going on? I mean if people are getting killed for just reporting news, who would want to take on that job and how would they ever get to know anything(Or don't they want to know anything?).
Not sure, but isn't even archiving police blotters is a kind of journalism

http://www.cpj.org/killed/Ten_Year_Killed/Intro.html

The Toll: Journalists Killed 1993-2002

Each year in January, the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) publishes a list of journalists killed in the line of duty around the world. This list has become the most widely cited press freedom statistic and is often seen as a barometer of the state of global press freedom.

While the correlation between the number of journalists killed and the state of press freedom in a particular country is far from exact--no journalists have been killed in Cuba, for example, and only one has been killed in China during the last decade-the annual list does give some sense of the range of risks that journalists face in reporting the news. To provide a more complete statistical picture, CPJ is releasing a list of journalists killed during the last decade. The list has been broken down by year, country, and a variety of other categories.

Methodology
As with all of its casework, CPJ applies strict journalistic standards when investigating a journalist's murder. We only consider a case "confirmed" if our research confirms or strongly suggests that a journalist was likely killed in direct reprisal for his or her work or in cross fire while carrying out a dangerous assignment. We do not include journalists who are killed in accidents-such as car or plane crashes--unless the crash was caused by bellicose human action (for example, if a plane were shot down or a car crashed trying to avoid gunfire).

If the motives are unclear, but it is possible that a journalist was killed because of his or her work, CPJ classifies the case as "unconfirmed" and continues to investigate to determine the motive for the murder. For this 10-year statistical analysis, we used only confirmed cases.

While we believe that this list is both comprehensive and accurate, we generally have more detailed information about more recent cases. Our staff has grown over the years, and new information technologies such as the Internet and e-mail have made it much easier to report on the killing of journalists, even in remote places.
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