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Mon Nov-10-03 02:03 PM
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Bush* says Americans that are sent to Cuban POW camp no longer |
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have constitutional rights. Says since they are no longer in America they no longer are covered by US Constitution even though they were taken from their homes here in America. Supreme Court is taking the case of two such Americans to rule on whether the Constitution is going to be upheld. American's are allowed the right to speedy trial and the right to an attorney. Bush* says no, that they are no longer in America so they no longer have the constitution to protect them.
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:05 PM
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1. I hope he remembers this... |
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...on his upcoming visit to London...
After all, outside the US, he's entitled to neither Constitutional rights, nor rights as outlined in the Geneva convention, by his own "logic".
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:06 PM
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They had it when they were in the US. Why weren't they given it to them then?
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:10 PM
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3. Easy one--make me a justice! |
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The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Since obviously they are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and born or naturalized in this country, I would say the Constitution applies to them, as it does to all other citizens. This one should take ten minutes for the SCOTUS.
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:13 PM
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4. Since the US is a legal leasee of Guantanamo |
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and long time leasee it would follow that the US is responsible for activities conducted on that property.
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:15 PM
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:14 PM
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5. He said they were prisoners of war. |
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However, doesn't that status change after the war is over? It seems to me, that the principal offenders should have trials like Nuremberg and the rest should be sent home. It seems to me that once there is no war, then those POW camps start looking more and more like concentration camps.
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Mon Nov-10-03 04:46 PM
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16. Under the Geneva Conventions, they can't be POWs |
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because only Congress can declare war, and wars can only be declared against another state.
The list of things for which McCokespoon and his cabal can be tried and imprisoned might actually be longer than the lists for most of the defendents at Nürnberg.
<cynical>Anyone want to make book on whether they will be?</cynical>
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:15 PM
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:24 PM
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9. No I don't have a link, just heard it on radio news but thread in LBN |
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:16 PM
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8. Link please...if true, unsurprising |
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The Buseviks don't like the Amerikan Subjects they rule an more than they do their new Iraqi subjects.
(but they get to steal from us both at the same time!)
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:30 PM
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10. Another Repuke Attack On Non-White Americans! |
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how many of those at guantanamo are white??
why did timothy mcveigh have more rights than the brown skinned americans shipped off to cuba receive?????
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:51 PM
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uphold bush`s decree? the ruling will echo back to the magna charta in that a man is to be judged by a trial by his peers.if the supremes rule for bush then he can judge anyone in this country without review.this will place him in recent history along side stalin,hitler,and mao. great company he will keep in history. it will be the day democracy dies.
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:52 PM
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12. that is the very definition of totalitarianism |
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Mon Nov-10-03 02:54 PM
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13. Sworn To Uphold The Constitution, Huh? |
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Mon Nov-10-03 04:33 PM
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14. is he totally loopy ?? |
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does this guy just re-write the Constitution as he goes along. What an arrogant a*******
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Mon Nov-10-03 04:45 PM
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Now we can go back and discount all the absentee ballot votes from Americans that were outside the country during selection 2000! They obviously don't have the constitutional right to vote since they are outside the United States.
And 50% of the American people support this guy?!! WTFO
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Mon Nov-10-03 04:52 PM
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Facism...plain and simple.
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Mon Nov-10-03 05:02 PM
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18. Great. Using that logic, if you need to get help in a foreign country, |
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don't call the US Embassy. The Constitution no longer applies to you. Nor apparently does citizenship. GRRR!
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Mon Nov-10-03 05:08 PM
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19. If Gitmo isn't American soil |
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Than Cuba must be an ally of the US, cuz' I can't imaging that Cubans would let an enemy have a base on Cuban soil. Are people who visit Gitmo violating the Cuba travel ban when they visit Gitmo?
Better question, when do we start the treason trial for the BFEE (I want that witch Barbara HW Bush to go down hard)?
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