What is the GOP Vision for America????

[radwriter0555]

I ask this question every time I'm in yahoo chat, and have never, ever gotten an answer.

Any ideas? Thoughts?

[Demobrat]

1. Go to Guatemala. Check it out.

You won't have to bother to ask again.

[LuCifer]

7. or...

build a time machine and take a trip back to when Hitler was in full power...don't stay too long, just long enough to chuck a grenade at his ass.

Lu Cifer

[Nay]

25. Or to the Brazilian favelas, and take away Lula for a generation.

That's the plan -- you poor and in a shack, them in the mansion on the hill.

[0rganism]

30. Guatemala was my first thought as well

An elite landed gentry, living in walled compounds with a large indigenous servant staff. Beyond the estate walls, poverty, starvation, chaos, and organized crime would be the norm. Some of my relatives were with the U.S. embassy (i.e., dignatary elite) in Guatemala, I've seen their video tapes, it's a very simple three-tier system: the ultra wealthy, the bandits, and the serfs.

Why speculate when we already have examples of the finished product?

[RobertSeattle]

2. I'll take a poke

I copied this from a thread a while back:

Enrich the Wealthy

Empower the Powerful

Gratify the Greedy

Comfort the Comfortable

Impoverish the Disenfranchised

Afflict the Afflicted

[proud patriot]

3. Hellfire and brimstone

suffering ,wailing , begging
Americans got it too good you know :eyes:

[Hep]

4. delete

n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

5. 4th Reich!

It will be so much easier when Bush is finally able to admit openly he is the KING!

[Don_G]

6. Poverty

Nothing less.

[AP]

8. A large class of working poor, heavily indebted, so that they

don't challenge the people on top for political and economic power, and who are less likely to leave their crappy low paying job to try to get a better job.

Their vision of American is the wage slave.

In some ways, I wonder if this is a response to increased civil rights. Now that America is figuring out a way to eliminate a permanent underclass of black and immigrant Americans, the Republicans need to find a new way to create a class of people who will accept low wages.

[Nevernose]

16. Which would neccesarily invlove

The eventual (or not so eventual) destruction of the middle-class.

[rucky]

9. Global Oligarchy with a side of "Christian values"

[denverbill]

18. The 'christian values' is a fascade.

Christian values: love your neighbor as yourself, and do unto others as you would have them do to you. Love your enemy. It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into heaven.

Republican values: My way or the highway. Kill your enemy. Your either with us or against us. Greed is good. You can never be too rich or too thin.

You can pretend to be a Christian all you want and say Jebus all you want, but in the end, actions speak louder than words.

[rucky]

22. Yep...they are truly delusional

Jesus was a liberal. no doubt about it.

[Beaker]

10. somewhere between Amos n' Andy & Father Knows Best.

that's the way they se it, anyway. In actuality, it would be more like somewhere between Bombay & Calcutta.

[HFishbine]

11. Well

If I'm hearing it correctly:

- Keep America strong and respected
- Smaller government
- Moral leadership
- Lower taxes
- Safe future for our children
- Strenghten faith and community

Yeah, yeah, I know. Don't argue with me, I'm just repeating what I've heard.

[CO Liberal]

12. The GOP Vision for America

[rasputin1952]

13. A country that is designed around Feudal Europe...

An upper elite, and everybody else.
The everybody else is kept ignorant, and feel themselves to be blessed to work for the royalty and the knighted.

:mad:

[0rganism]

29. Not a country, but a World designed around corporate feudalism

Global corporations have an advantage over standard landholding feudalism in that their domains are rooted in copyright space rather than physical space in which they overlap. Other than that, the principles would be essentially the same as the liege system of feudal Europe.

[Loonman]

14. Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!

Ein Fox News Channel!

[adriennel]

15. check out the GOP "Issues"

http://www.rnc.org/Issues

but don't forget to use your GOP/Bush translator

example:
"improved air quality for al Americans"...except for the ones that live near a power plant...the EPA just dropped the investigation of at least 50 coal-burning plants in the US.
"tax relief for all Americans"....this one is self-explanatory, although I am making the most out of my extra $8.
"the tax cut will help create 800,000 jobs by the end of 2002"....um, I don't think this happened, and it's still on their web site!
"The tax cut came at just the right time to help a slowing economy. The tax cut helped shorten the duration and impact of the recession."
I didn't know the recession is over!

...and so on.

[Bandit]

17. To be taken care of by Powerful Father Figure

Having a Father Figure in charge to take care of everyone. Mother figure is Democrat and that is weak (according to GOP). We coddle our citizens while GOP uses "Tough Love" Also they figure to carry a big stick so everyone is scared to think independently. Never, ever, ever "Question Authority". That is the number one no-no in GOP philosophy.

[leftofthedial]

19. Think medieval England

that's pretty much it.

[kodi]

20. vision? vision, you say? ..."strive for wealth, care only for self"

got it?

[solinvictus]

21. Highly pronounced class divisions

marked by the rich, poor, and very poor with lots of cheap labor around either inside or outside of a penetentiary.

[skypilot]

23. Read this article from The Nation. Sums things up nicely.

"The movement's grand ambition--one can no longer say grandiose--is to roll back the twentieth century, quite literally. That is, defenestrate the federal government and reduce its scale and powers to a level well below what it was before the New Deal's centralization. With that accomplished, movement conservatives envision a restored society in which the prevailing values and power relationships resemble the America that existed around 1900, when William McKinley was President. Governing authority and resources are dispersed from Washington, returned to local levels and also to individuals and private institutions, most notably corporations and religious organizations. The primacy of private property rights is re-established over the shared public priorities expressed in government regulation. Above all, private wealth--both enterprises and individuals with higher incomes--are permanently insulated from the progressive claims of the graduated income tax."

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=20030512&s=greider

[tom_paine]

24. A Third World Empire

Rome on Techno-Steroids, with mre than a dash of "Farenheit 451" and "1984" thrown in.

Third-World Economy Two classes, not three. Haves and have-nots. Reverse Robin-Hood and removal of worker protections. Wage-slaves being pushed from a poor economy (but we added on a whole bunch of Wal-Mart jobs!) to be never ending grist for the Imperial War Machine. By 2000, we already had the greatest wealth disparity in the Civilized World. By 2050, if these rends remain unchanged, we will have the wealth disparity of the 1890s or perhaps even the 1590s, by then it won't matter.

Third-World Governance -- as the government is purposefully starved and more and more Imperial Senators are handpicked for their loyalty to the Imperial Family, the lines of governance will shift over the long term. That, I believe is what the Citizen Corps is ultimately all about -- replacing the legislative branch with a direct Executive/Imperial control of the localities

Reminds me of Star Wars: The Imperial Governors will rule their provinces directly. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of the Imperial Army and fear of this station...

But this is no laughing mattre. Within 20 years, there will be Citizen Corps Councils and Nationalized Nieghborhood Watches in every locality.

www.citizencorps.gov

As the Imperial Senate loses it's power to Imperial Fiat (as it has been these last 3 years) and goes bankrupt, the line of power will run increasingly from the Imperial Family through DoJ and their "liasons" directly to the CCCs (no coincidence there inthe initials) Which will run their localities.

Third-World Law -- This one is obvious as the Busheviks are poushing it faster than all the rest. PATRIOT ACT and PATRIOT II (VICTORY) will strip Imperial Subjects of their rights --surveillance state is just around the bend and even now Reichsmarschall Ashcroft is (by Imperial Fiat, of course) writin new guidleines alowing the OHS to spy on anyone they choose with no need for probable cause or a judge's signature. Imperial Family, allies and friends are already above the law -- Rush Limba and the Anthrax Assassin are two prominent examples. It will get worse, much worse. Imperial Family Federalist Society judges, once they become dominanat will be beholden to no law save the wishes of their Masters. Oh, and don't forget the gradually expanding "alternate judicial system" without those pesky check and balaces of due process or habeus corpus.

Third-World Media Ultimately, Corporate Consolidation aided by Imperial Loyalists in the FCC (lead by Duke Michael Powell) will reach Soviet levels. One story, One Folk, One Reich, and shut your pie-hole you unpatriotic scum. Just witness what the Mainstream Media has become in the alst few years. Ultimately the entirety of the Party-Loyal Right-Wing Sub-Media will become the ENTIRE MEDIA. The tiny dribbles of truth that trickel out will dry up. We will speak with one voice, just the Old Sovet Union and Nazi Germany.

Third-World Education Systems -- As bad as the Public School System is, imagine in 50 years how much worse it will be without it. Education will once again be the province of wealth. The Great American Middle Class that emerged after WWII cannot survive without access to Higher Education. Starvation of government combined with skyrocketing tuition rates means it won't have it. Only the Wealthy Elite will even understand what is going on, the rest of the Have-nots won't even understand.

[tom_paine]

26. kick

[mmonk]

27. armageddon?

[spindoctor]

28. A serious reply to a serious question

You're asking vegetarians for a pork recipe here.

But check out this website http://www.ontheissues.org
They feature every politician on every issue you can come up with. Even "President" Bush.

[GreenArrow]

31. here's the result of their vision