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Mon Nov-10-03 06:02 PM
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wwith Buchanan & Press
Press; If 3 Generals won't support you, why should the American people?
(Yeah, like 3 generals make up the entire army)
Basically said that two of them don't know what they are talking about, and SHelton let a policy move turn personal
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:06 PM
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:08 PM
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2. Did Clark get wounded in his blink reflexes in the war? |
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:13 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 06:13 PM by SahaleArm
Maybe contact lenses? I had to force myself to blink after going to contacts; I still don't blink as much when I'm wearing them.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:15 PM
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:19 PM
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9. it means he's not a villain |
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Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 06:19 PM by Cocoa
because villains always blink their eyes. So says Lou Reed anyway.
I'm a Gep supporter too, by the way, and his stare is even more intense than Clark's.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:20 PM
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11. Blinking is for the weak. |
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:19 PM
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10. When you have Karl Rove to worry about it's best not to blink. |
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:22 PM
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13. When you blink, you miss somethink. |
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Some say elevated blinking rates denote deception.
But it is . . . different, like Jimmy Carter's filling-free teeth.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:31 PM
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22. Condi Rice blinks a lot |
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so I guess your theory holds.
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Tue Nov-11-03 12:01 AM
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42. They've had studies that shows that frequent blinking denotes lying |
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Remember all the blinking that Clarence Thomas did?
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Tue Nov-11-03 03:57 AM
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When he's trying to address the nation by blinking directly into the telprompter, er camera.
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Tue Nov-11-03 09:04 AM
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49. Which candidate blinks the most? |
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That's who I won't trust, if these studies are right. :)
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Mon Nov-10-03 07:41 PM
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34. they're coached not to blink. Same for actors |
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watch film actors and they never blink with the exception of Hugh Grant, who uses blinking to convey befuddlement.
It's one of the most difficult things for film actors to learn.
Politicians can take it a little too far. Remember Ross Perot?
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Mon Nov-10-03 08:39 PM
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Is Gephardt still using an eyebrow pencil?
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Tue Nov-11-03 12:06 AM
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43. Perhaps you are more accostomed to liars |
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The more blinking a person does the greater chance that they are lying their ass off. Maybe you're just more accostomed to being lied to.
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Tue Nov-11-03 04:05 AM
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48. Did you ever noticed how the PIECE OF SHIT blinks all of the time |
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It's a sure sign of someone telling a LIE.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:12 PM
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3. On Bush & Military Funerals |
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Basically said that Bush doesn't get it, he was never in battle, he doesn't know about sacrifice
He and his Admin are using troops like Pawns on Chessboard, for geoolitical gains
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:22 PM
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14. He did a good job on saying it too |
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He didn't outright accuse the president of doing a piss-poor job, but after he was done saying his peace it was obvious that he disapproves of Bush and his policies and thinks that they have betrayed the troops. I also liked how the host directly confronted the issue of Bush not visitng, in his words, "a single one" of the military funerals. I also liked how Clark was saying that, "the troops deserve more than just a canned speech." I can't wait until he debates Bush on live tv, its going to be a slaughter!
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:13 PM
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rise to the bait and trash the other candidates. Good for him.
MzPip :dem:
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:17 PM
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7. I loved how he avoided that |
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And he did it in such a way that he didn't look like he was ducking out of the question too. That and when he was talking about the soldier's deaths he seemed really choked up about it. He looked like he was just barely holding back tears.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:18 PM
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8. now Dana Priest form the WP |
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Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 06:20 PM by Cush
says that the generals in Iraq want more troops, but that they can't say it
The training of Iraqi's isn't as going as well as they thought it would
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Mon Nov-10-03 08:38 PM
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36. Re: Iraqi troops.....Turkish Daily News analysis comments that |
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if you go to Iraq troops, you'll create a WARLORD situation (like in Afghanistan)...
In the current World Media Watch...(URL below)
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:22 PM
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12. So General Clark is really |
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alive and well. I watched CNN Inside Politics for one hour. Clark's name was mentioned once during the whole hour -- and by Bill Schneider.
Then at 5:00, I watched Wolf Blitzer for about 40 minutes (waiting to see what Daschle had to say), and General Clark was mentioned exactly one time. Do you suppose they are under orders not to discuss the good General? Like, put him on Ignore?
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:25 PM
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18. MSNBC wasn't too shy of doing so |
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Maybe they are the only TV network that can be trusted. They were the same folks who aired Donahue. That and they took a good amount of time with Clark, and they didn't run him roughshod, he looked and did VERY good. It seemed like he was looking right at me the whole time, not just like he was looking at the camera.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:52 PM
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MSRNC is horrible in many ways, and their slant is far too right-wing for any thinking person.
However, I will give them this - the campaign 'embeds' (their term - I despise it) with the Democrats aren't sneering, taunting SOB's like the campaign coverage on CNN. Most of them are young reporters, they seem to know the campaigns, and the coverage is fair. This is the most glaring fault with CNN - they put RW hags like Crowley on the Democrats, and the coverage is simply so biased anyone with more than a third grade education should be able to see through it.
So, I'll give MSRNC credit where credit is due. I have yet to see one snide report from one of their embeds that Gores the candidate.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:59 PM
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30. Also, Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell did stories very unwelcome |
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at the WH.
Others, too, like a story on diverting intel and operational assets from the Afghan campaign to the cowboy war in Iraq, letting Been Forgotten regroup.
Fools.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:26 PM
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Clark and Dean are in a statistical dead heat Nationally but there is very little news on him. I'm glad to see he's finally getting a bit of airtime to rebut all the innuendos that Bush's Generals are tossing about.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:23 PM
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15. Press has a bug up his ass when he deals with Clark |
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I know that Dean is his guy and he fears Clark is the one that can beat him. But I am getting tired of his lie that Clark is fading, when almost all national polls has Clark in first or second. And Clark doing best against Bush.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:26 PM
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20. I've noticed that too... |
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it looks like he has just sucked on a lemon when he is speaking to Clark.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:23 PM
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16. Now the Jesscia Lynch Story |
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A Guest is stikcing it to the press on how they handled it
it the WP 3 months to retract the story
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:24 PM
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17. SOMEbodies decided Clark was good enough, ethical enough, |
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and, deserving of the title: General, Supreme Commander of NATO Forces. If, after turning Democrat, some of those same SOMEbodies don't like his politics, I say *&%$F#@+^ them. Just gives Clark more credibility as our Numero Uno soldier in the campaign against BFEE.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:30 PM
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These other Generals think All Generals now should be strong Republicans. Clark broke that ideology and now they are turning on him. If he was running as a Rep they would be praising him.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:44 PM
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23. Yes, and I bet the average soldier is hoping Clark gets the nomination, |
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so he/she can vote for the General in 2004's presidential election.
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Tue Nov-11-03 12:15 AM
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44. I just sent some Clark buttons to a soldier on the USS Lincoln |
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Along with some other goodies. He's a Clark guy! :-)
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Tue Nov-11-03 09:08 AM
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:58 PM
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28. his musical tastes probably broke ranks too |
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Clark likes Outkast, I don't know what generals are supposed to like, probably Perry Como or something like that.
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Mon Nov-10-03 07:01 PM
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Mon Nov-10-03 08:44 PM
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40. Clark DOES Like Outkast! |
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See his CNN ad, here: http://www.rockthevote.com/multimedia/candidates/clark.artv.affl.150k.movHe also responded to a questioner after the CNN debate, who asked him if he really liked Outkast, or if that was just an ad. Clark responded by saying something to the effect of, "Hey, I can shake it like a Polaroid picture!" DTH
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Tue Nov-11-03 10:50 AM
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I saw him speak, wouldn't surprise me if he likes Outkast. Also heard him speak on NH Public Radio. Said he was a big Buddie Holly fan growing up. Definately likes Rock. Said he and his roomate used to play "Satisfaction" by the Stones every day when they were at West Point, it was a regular ritual for them which helped them get through it. Said he likes the Doors also. Clark is in him mid 50's so Rock would come naturally to him. Glad to know he wasn't into Wayne Newton and the Partridge Family lol. He threw the interviewer a curve when he said he alsofollowed Folk music while at West Point, specifically mentioning Peter Paul and Mary. She said something like, "but they were anti war" and Clark replied that a song like "Where have all the flowers gone?" spoke directly to someone facing service in Viet Nam.
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Mon Nov-10-03 08:35 PM
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and about time. We need to all keep this in mind. In that light...who cares what they say? They have joined the lock-step goons and take their orders from Rove, imo.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:46 PM
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And they really stretch for their digs, cf. Hughie and Norm.
Some of the fruit salad on the other side of the table should try harder for a more professional and diplomatic critque position, one that they may find themselves forced to climb down from in not too very long a time.
Hope is not a plan.
:)
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:57 PM
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26. With *'s re-Selection numbers about 44%, it's no wonder Rove is calling |
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forth the bottom feeders! B-)
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:57 PM
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27. Clark went around Shelton |
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Straight to the bossman.
Shelton was pissed so now he attacks Clark. Shelton is a no class piece of trash that is sooo obviously envious of Clark its glaring.
Clark showed loads of class and by not getting into the namecalling he proved hes the better man.
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Mon Nov-10-03 06:58 PM
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29. I thought that he was brilliant. |
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He did a great job and will do a great job at beating dingle-berry's butt.
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Mon Nov-10-03 07:34 PM
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Mon Nov-10-03 08:40 PM
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38. Re: Clark Fading.....Friday nite on PBS News Hour, Safire said he |
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was "fading away" and Mark Shields didn't say boo!
I hate Safire.
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Mon Nov-10-03 08:43 PM
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Mon Nov-10-03 11:50 PM
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Had a great day in Arizona, visited VA hospitals, talking to vets and others. Caught a Republican "plant" at one meeting, we think! Had fun wrestling with Buchanan and Press and Maria on Capital Report! And now on the red-eye to NH.
Wes
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Tue Nov-11-03 02:26 AM
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45. Of course Clark is on Ignore..... |
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Today on Crossfire, the woman representing Dean against Kerry's representative, said something like well there are other candidates, WES CLARK...she said it real loud.....the pundits just looked at her and kept on talking. I don't think you're supposed to talk about him on CNN. They scared that Bush will give them a trashing if they do. Will start having them investigated by the SEC again.
But Clark is going about his campaign by getting local media attention. He got a lot in the past three days, along with the National mediawhore smears of course.
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Tue Nov-11-03 02:31 AM
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Well damn, CNN did a presidential candidates on Vet Day spot and managed to leave out Clark. I'm just surprized they didn't mention Dean since they did include Lieberman.
Everyday in everyway. I'm sure this is a concerted effort and unfortunately for the Democratic Party an effective one. Wouldn't want junior to lose a few Red states.
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Tue Nov-11-03 09:33 AM
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was talking to someone on her show. They were talking about potential primary results and how the candidates could each take different states. They talked about Gep, Dean, Kerry in NH an Iowa then said Edwards could then pick up a state (I guess they were afraid to mention the South Carolina where Clark is 7 points ahead of Edwards).
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