Delay wants the NYC Repuke Convention on a Cruise Ship?

[leftchick]

Did anyone else see that on C-Span today? I just caught the end of it. There was a report from one of those DC gossip rags they go to daily. The Hill I think? The Editor said bug man tom is working a deal with Princess cruise lines to have the convention on their ship rather than a hotel in NYC! Gee, I wonder why they would want that? I checked the web site for them and found no mention. Has anyone else seen or heard about this?

On Edit: Here is a link, you need to pay so I can't get the whole article....http://www.rollcall.com/pub/49_51/news/3544-1.html

<snip>A Floating Convention?
GOP Eyes Cruise Ship for N.Y.C. Housing
By Ben Pershing and John Bresnahan
Roll Call Staff
November 10, 2003

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) and Rep. Vito Fossella (R-N.Y.) are pushing an ambitious plan to park a luxury cruise ship in New York Harbor to serve as an exclusive floating hotel for lawmakers and lobbyists during the 2004 Republican National Convention.

[Field Of Dreams]

1. Hopefully it will end up like Gilligan's island...

and we will never have to worry about the whole sorry lot of them again.

Dick Cheney as Skipper
George Bush as Gilligan
Donald Rumsfeld as the Professor
Katherine Harris as Ginger

who else?

[JM]

11. George and Babs somewhat resemble

Mr. and Mrs. Howell...

Later,
JM

[Kahuna]

27. LOL!

That was a good one.

[eileen_d]

45. A three hour tour! A three hour tour!

Make it three decades and I'm up for it.

[Stephanie]

2. OMG, if only we could cut the anchor loose and send them off to China

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3. to cut down on the protests

They have to know that there a more than a few New Yorkers who do not take kindly to our city being used as a photo op.

[Mountainman]

5. I think your right

They just get everyone onboard and head out to sea and noone can protest except with boats. They'll probably hire the USS Lincoln with a "Bush 2004" banner on it.

[brainshrub]

9. It's a great idea! If you want to avoid looking at protestors.

Plus, they will get to say that they didn't want to make NYC a prop after 9/11.

I think most New Yorkers are mad at the way the Bush admin lied to them about the air quality after 9/11, and even madder at the way they have not allowed an investigation to go forward.

[Beaker]

51. They'd have to surround it with a flotilla of m/billionaire's yachts-

In order to insulate themselves from the even larger flotilla of protesters that's sure to happen. I should make for some great arial footage...BTW, how many radio-controlled planes and boats do you suppose will be launched against the cruiseship...whatta target.

[leftchick]

13. exactly my thoughts too....although the editor of the paper

never mentioned it. He said it had to do with "security" measures . LOL ..... The repukes are fucking scared of the NYers is what it is!

[Timefortruth]

33. Absolutely, they made the choice

to have it in NYC when they thought it would be a golden opportunity to cash in on 9/11. As more time passes and more people become aware of what happened the NYC choice is starting too look like a disaster.

[bahrbearian]

4. What happens when you have a sinking ship full of RepugRats.

[Raster]

6. what do you call a cruise ship full of repugs...

....plunging to the bottom of the ocean???


A good start!

[kskiska]

19. Botulism.

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[eleny]

53. I can just see the cartoons

The R's looking like river rats crawling all over a ship. Ewww.

[gristy]

7. I believe you misheard

There is nothing on news google

http://news.google.com/news?q=republican+convention+cruise&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=G&edition=us&scoring=d

[leftchick]

16. I did not miss hear....I even saw the newsprint from the article

shown on C-Span. It may have been the other daily they use, Roll Call I think. I do know What I heard though and it was on going talks with Princess Cruise Lines about it. They even said that the Democrats may consider a deal with Princess for the Boston convention!

[jenk]

8. yea, the Titanic

[IndianaGreen]

69. Or the Lusitania

How about sending the ship to the Bermuda Triangle?

[nostamj]

10. huh???

they're having this at MADISON SQ GARDEN

i know there are some BIG boats, but....

with greater capacity than MSG ???

news to me........... <sigh>

[terrisel]

14. Hmm...an offshore Republican convention

Seem appropriate for a political party which is the champion of off-shore corporations

[maha]

62. Security is going to be a nightmare.

Can you imagine? They can't rope off Midtown for a week, can they? And what to do with Penn Station?

[hlthe2b]

12. you mean he wants a "moat" to keep protesters far away...

I'm willing to bet....

[bahrbearian]

15. No it's just the villager's celibrating a good Harvest.

[donotpassgo]

17. See...THAT'S the Party that's really in touch with Regualr Americans

but I guess this recovery is creating more yacht cleaning jobs.

[ShaneGR]

18. Ummm, they aren't having their convention at a hotel

They are having it at Madison Square Garden.

[Cha]

20. Yeah! let's run the chicken-

shits out there! No place is safe for them from the Protesters!

[liberalmuse]

21. I think that's a FABULOUS idea!

It kind of reminds me of that ship full of toxic waste that went around the world for a couple of years because no one would let them into their ports. It finally returned empty, with no accounting of what happened to the load. We should be so lucky.

[0rganism]

22. Not a bad idea, IF they can get to the harbor

The dock becomes a natural chokepoint, rather than the area around Madison Square Garden.

Having the convention in NYC was questionable at best. Timing it for September 11 was the king of all insults. Moving it into a cruise ship might be the only way to keep millions of irate liberals (aka serfs) from interfering with the procedings.

It sure would be funny if Greenpeace laid seige to their floating castle, tho.

[ShaneGR]

23. LOL!

Greenpeace... hehe....

Although both national conventions have been labeled National Security zones.... so I'm not sure there boat would get very close.

[0rganism]

26. I wonder what would happen.... could be a good modern "pirate" movie

Sort of a combination of "Die Hard" and "The Spy Who Loved Me", I'm thinking, with a dash of "Air Force One" and "Raid on Entebbe" thrown in. Starring Bruce Willis, Harrison Ford, and Keanu Reeves. I see a surprise alien species ending inspired by "The Abyss". This one could have box-office legs.

[aquart]

43. LOL!

[leftofthedial]

24. well, they're all full of shit

maybe they'll get that cruise ship dysentery thing going

[robbedvoter]

25. Here's my No RNC mailing:

A Floating Convention?
GOP Eyes Cruise Ship for N.Y.C. Housing
By Ben Pershing and John Bresnahan
Roll Call Staff
November 10, 2003

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) and Rep. Vito Fossella (R-N.Y.) are pushing an ambitious plan to park a luxury cruise ship in New York Harbor to serve as an exclusive floating hotel for lawmakers and lobbyists during the 2004 Republican National Convention.
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http://www.rollcall.com/pub/49_51/news/3544-1.html


Nothing surprising here... just another ruse to shaft NYC as many ways as possible -- strip business from hotels, restaurants, infrastructure maintenance, parking fees, etc., let alone twisting the location of the 9-11 tragedy to maintain their craven political assault on our country.

And, by the way, a VERY good way to *attempt* to thwart the tremendous protests that are on the horizon for these thieves and charlatans next fall. Can't see those pesky focus groups from out in the harbor, no-siree. And our *media* can't either...snarf.

I heard Tim Curran mention that Princess Cruise Lines is in conference with the Rethugs about this. He casually mentioned that Princess has *offered* the same kind of deal to the Dems for their convention in Boston.

[seafan]

34. Glad you liked my post enough to copy/paste....

I don't mind that you used my earlier thread post on this topic, but please give credit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=82174

[Jonte_1979]

28. Why not have it on board a zeppeline instead?

Imagine; lots of nazis floating above New York. It would be just like it was back in '37.

[ParanoidPat]

29. Make it a prison ship and I'll donate to the cause!

Even if I have to go without food! :evilgrin: (It'd be worth it!)
Does it include a cruise to the middle east? :shrug:

[snippy]

30. Only lawmakers and lobbyists and satchels of money. How very republican.

Some of the lobbyists are not only in charge of the financial bribery but are also the lovers of some of the Congressmen. For example Chairman Thomas's mistress is a leading healthcare lobbyist. I do not know whether she knows what healthcare actually is.

[xultar]

31. Titanic....any ice bergs we can cut loose around that time?

[Timefortruth]

32. You know what, just the other day

in the news there was a big story about the polar ice caps melting and a big chunk of one cracked off. You might be on to something.

[Noordam]

35. Per the other thread on this Princess has offer both Repug and Dems

a ship.....

BUT the largest Princess ship only holds 2600 passengers. Not that many when you think of it.

[chaska]

36. What's that I hear?

If they could see me now
On a Funship cruise
I'm drinking lots of wine
And eating fancy chow

Why it's Kathie Lee Gifford.

Anybody got access to a submarine and torpedoes?

Seriously, they'd better do something, NY is gonna be leveled after the rioting is over.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

37. Ship of Fools

[retyred]

38. My kingdom for a sub

Retyred In Fla
So I Read This Book

[0rganism]

39. This is the winter of our discontent, now that I think of it

I'm wondering if the lunatic who attacked the Cole might have the right approach on this particular situation.

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. That should go over real big......

with all those who are out of work and down on their luck. A luxury cruise liner.........:eyes:

[gratuitous]

46. Yes, oh yes -- bring it on!

Campaign ad after campaign ad featuring the RNC Boondoggle, floating out to sea. Floating on a sea of red ink. Floating aimlessly around New York Harbor. Floating at arm's length from the people. Floating on a luxury liner when millions have been thrown out of work by an out of touch, corrupt administration's policies.

Please, oh please, oh please.

[aquart]

41. If they park it outside the three mile limit, will the nom be legal?

Go Delay! Get out of Manhattan! This is fabulous. Come to New York and segregate yourselves because you're afraid to wear a Republican button on our streets.

Do it.

So I take it the grand gesture of throwing a few tourist dollars at starving NYC is being rethought?

[LizW]

52. a floating gated community

how appropriate! Keep the rifraff (and press) away.

Republicans: too good for New York (except for photo ops featuring ground zero and the Statue of Liberty).

[Stephanie]

42. Remember when Whistle-Ass stayed on the Navy ship in Italy

for the G-8 summit, I think. Right before 9/11. Because they were afraid of missiles being flown into the hotel.

[remfan]

44. Newsday article

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-uscrus1111,0,5613251.story?coll=nyc-topheadlines-span

The cruise ship, with accommodations for 2,200 guests and 14 bars and 10 restaurants, would mirror other hospitality suites DeLay (R-Texas) has championed for members of Congress at past conventions. At the 2000 Republican convention in Philadelphia, DeLay secured private railroad cars, where members could meet and mingle with invited guests such as lobbyists -- no media allowed. He also provided members of Congress with cars and drivers. The amenities were funded by corporate contributions to a political action committee.

"It's as if Tom DeLay is the personal concierge for members," said one Republican staffer who refused further identification.

The ship would be provided by Norwegian Cruise Lines and would have amenities such as basketball courts, pools, a spa, movie theaters and jogging tracks. The Dawn normally docks in New York and runs cruises to the Bahamas and Florida.

[leesa]

63. "championed"??? what an odd word. As though Delay is doing

something worthwhile.

[Scott Lee]

47. How this is wonderfully fitting!

I hope working america, and those who aren't working anymore (thanks to the Bush economy) watch very carefully how the arrogant pricks in power act. And then vote accordingly.

Let them eat cake, indeed.

[Gingergal]

48. I like Andy Rooney's change of phrase:

Have a big banner that says
"Mission Impossible" Bush 2004

[Scott Lee]

66. Ya gotta love ol' Andy

Bless his heart, even though it seems to change alot. The guy's got the message.

[DS1]

49. wow, even their conventions have been moved offshore

It's purely for tax reasons :eyes:

[Beaker]

50. There are SO MANY angles that the Dems could use against it.

and look for a virtual Mariella boatlift of protestors...this lamebrain idea by the bugman could be a real boon for ourside.

Anyone care to join me in my Turtle?



http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4870/DrGeorgePCPage9Turtle.html

[Renew Deal]

54. Anyone see Ghost Ship?

That works for me.

[kodi]

55. good! have them all on one of those legionnaires diease carrying ships

with luck the entire delegation can get sick as dogs and shit their breeches all the way home from the big apple

[OldSoldier]

56. Well, here's your "sympathy attack"...

"Terra-ists" get French Exocet antiship missile, which is known to have been purchased by Iraq, and mount it on a big jon boat. They then drive into New York Harbor at 11am one convention morning, while the Repug delegates and their wives are at Madison Square Garden, and fire the Exocet into the cruise ship.

Cruise ships not being known for hardness against missiles with thousand-pound warheads, the luxury liner goes straight to the bottom. Fortunately for the cleaning crew, the barnacle-scraping team and the kitchen staff, the harbor floor ain't that far below the keel of a ship and most of them escape. Most is not all.

We get to attack Iraq with increased vigor for providing the missile to the terra-ists. We get to attack France with real guns for selling the missile to Iraq. (Never mind that Exocets aren't hard to get on the black market, so it could have come from anywhere, or that Aerospatiale's war materiel division is a bunch of sluts who will sell to anyone who has enough money--including Republicans, hint hint.) And we get four more years of Dubya.

Alternative: Chinese CSS-2 Silkworm missiles, which Iran bought in great numbers. This allows us to bomb Iran in retaliation.

This is different from what real terrorists would do, which is to sink the ship at 3am when the Repugs will all be in bed.

[ScreamingMeemie]

57. I had read printed rumor that Michael Moore was planning to

premier Farenheit911 in NYC, coinciding with the convention. Maybe this is an attempt to prevent that from happening??

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. Chicken shits!

Can't face New Yorkers, eh? I just don't see how that is going to happen. They would have to have security in the air. Secret Service men would have to learn how to scub dive. I think this is a Tom Delay wet dream. Face the music in New York you cowardly bastards!

[JHB]

59. So it's not the _Covention_ that's afloat, just the accomodations...

...so they can
a) stiff NYC's economy for the bill, having to pay for cop overtime but not collecting hotel revenues and taxes...

b)keep it extra-private. No reporters with a friend or informant on the staff, who would give tidbits or slip them in. All paid by corpo-dollars (read: you the consumer), not party dollars or by the delegates themselves. (How do you visit New York on $5 a day? Have someone else pay for it!)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

60. chickenshit basturd, he's afraid of NYers...doesn't wanna face the

protester in the streets

[leesa]

61. Funny. I say it's a grand idea...get all the scum in one place

I predict some reason will be found to move the convention to the Pig Farm before too long...or maybe they could stage it off Gitmo.

[El Mariachi]

64. no way

There is not a cruise ship in existence that I am aware of that can fit the capacity of Madison Square Garden in one room. Therefore, I believe your article has a few facts confused.

[Cassandra]

65. Ah, the Ship of Fools!

Sorry, that was irresistable as is:
Titanic
Shipwrecked
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Voyage of the Dammed
The Wackiest Ship in the Army

The possibilities are endless. We need a naming contest!

[CaptainClark23]

67. Sounds good to me.

about 2,600 repugs moored to a dock on the West side of town, eh?

Only one way off a dock (while staying dry). No back doors or underground parking garages.

Could be 2,600 repugs having a tough time getting to the Garden, hm?

[CaptainClark23]

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